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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

well to be fair most clubs have fan who wouldnt exactly be too kind if an incident like this went down with

management making us all look like fucking retards. but i wont comment on the clattenberg thing


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

Clattenburg will probably turn down the chance to officiate another Chelsea game. And he probably wouldn't be given one anymore.

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well to be fair most clubs have fan who wouldnt exactly be too kind if an incident like this went down with
Sure, every club has idiots. It's just Chelsea have recent history with this sort of thing. Chanting "Anton Ferdinand you know what you are" was absolutely disgusting. It was as bad as or worse as the Stoke fans constant booing of Aaron Ramsey.

For those fans to chant that at Ferdinand after clearly seeing what Terry called him and to continue to after the bullshit defence Terry came up with was just appalling. There's absolutely no need to boo Clattenburg. He's done nothing wrong whatsoever. Ramires' accusation wasn't just dismissed, it was contradicted. One man's account caused all this fuss. Clattenburg's the victim here like Ferdinand was. If he receives abuse it would be despicable. Unfortunately however, with the Chelsea fans, and it's a minority I'm sure, it's probably expected.
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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

well what about those hillsbrough, munich, evra and that other incidents by fans

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well what about those hillsbrough, munich, evra and that other incidents by fans
Absolutely disgusting but separate incidents. I was only talking about Clattenburg. The Hillsbrough/Munich chants, as wrong as they are, are chanted because of rivalries between clubs. The treatment of Ferdinand was different though, targeting an individual who was nothing but a victim because the fans in question were standing up for their racist scumbag of a captain who was clearly in the wrong.

That in no terms is meant to defend or play down the Hillsbrough/Munich chants which are absolutely horrific.
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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

Good read - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/b...l&type=article

Every clubs have fans who are idiots and they come out more when there's an off the pitch incident/story involving the Club. Just that Chelsea have had a lot of chances for their fans to embarass themselves in recent years.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

Look way I see it there is no reason to boo any player. Unless hes really annoying, in which case its fine. Like roony and rio. especially rio, i really find that guy annoying as hell on twitter, and not in an amusing way like cole.

As for the clattenberg issue, honestly. There is no possible reason for anyone to be mad. The situation resolved in the best way possible. He didnt turn out to be racist. Ramires made the right decision to report what he thought was abuse. And The club reported the decision to the FA. The FA investigated and FA reached the conclusion it was just a misunderstanding. Case closed. Except for mikel losing it when he was told he was racially abused. Which he admitted and will be punished for most likely. Which is fine, racism or not, violence isnt the answer

Unfortunately, alot of wacko fans will hate clattenberg for it. And the media will go after chelsea and mikel for it


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

Technically speaking Chelsea didn't do anything wrong. Yes Ramires was right to report the incident if he heard what he heard. Could he have acted less hastily before reporting the incident? Tried to gather the evidence and confirm his suspicions of what he heard rather than reporting it seemingly as soon as he came off the pitch? Yes. It's a PR nightmare for Chelsea though and Chelsea are a club who don't need to force PR nightmares upon themselves.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread (Wake me up when November ends :'()

Ramires probably could have acted better. But hes a nice guy and he was just looking out for his friend. Tensions were high post match so i suppose he wasnt thinking straight

However, he did report it. Now the problem is how Chelsea reacted. If they just brushed it under the carpet, and then that got leaked, imagine the field day the media would have with that. "CONTROVERSY AS CLUB HIDES OWN PLAYERS RACIAL ABUSE". could absolutely wreck the lockerroom. Basically damned if you, damned if you dont

Shit only got really retarded when the Society of Black lawyers tried to make a name for themselves and tried to sue Clattenberg without even consulting mikel, or chelsea, or anyone. They were just looking to start problems


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