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Old 11-21-2012, 10:09 PM   #691 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:14 AM   #692 (permalink)
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You'll still get 3rd spot. Will Rafa do any better with the current group of players than RDM would have? Probably not. Will Torres play every game again now? Definitely.
Pretty much what I was gonna say. Rafa should secure you guys Champo league football but that at most. Said it from the start of the season and I'm not gonna change it now, the title will be between the two Manchester clubs with Chelsea finishing pretty comfortably in third while guys like Arsenal, Spurs & Maybe Everton (doubt us tbh) will fight for 4th.

Honestly not sure what to make of him actually going to Chelsea though. Never really had that level of hatred for Chelsea even during the Rafa/Jose days. Maybe I just don't care since I have no real expectations of Chelsea to be battling for anywhere except 3rd.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:07 AM   #694 (permalink)
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Aquilani cost far more than 5 million pounds. Rafa isn't the greatest manager transfer wise, but he's not too bad. Just happens that the mistake of pissing off Xabi and "replacing" him with Aqua was catastrophic
Can't blame Rafa for that, I honestly thought it was a good signing after his performances in Serie A. It was just a case of another player who just couldn't get going in the premier league. There's been a lot of them, foreigners can be indifferent when signed from other countries. Doubt I told you anything you don't already know.

As for RDM was I the only person who didn't rate him?
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Aquilani cost far more than 5 million pounds. Rafa isn't the greatest manager transfer wise, but he's not too bad. Just happens that the mistake of pissing off Xabi and "replacing" him with Aqua was catastrophic. Under Rafa we finished 5th (but won the CL), 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd. Sold Alonso, finished 7th and we haven't recovered. Obviously not helped by Kenny blowing a lot of the money we had from FSG on utter shite. Carroll, Downing, Adam, and to a lesser extent Hendo (b/c i still have some hope for him ) was a huge waste of money. Look at Newcastle, we funded their rise last year. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse all bought or paid for (Ba was a free) from the money we handed over for that numpty Carroll.



Not good enough? Cmon, your squad this year is far better than your squad last year that won you the damn thing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Chelsea did the wrong thing by firing AVB. I just think he cops a lot of undeserved criticism from the whole thing. Yes his tactics were just plain wrong on occasion (and still remains wrong at Spurs), and yes, trying to dump out all the older players at once was dumb but he really didn't do too poorly. Its not like he started to drive you into the ground like Hodgson, King Kenny and to a lesser extent Rafa did.

Bigger loss for Chelsea isn't RDM though, i heard Eva was leaving as well. Huge loss to the club but on the plus side, less stoppages for groin injuries
Rush seems to have a hard on for AVB. Defending him at every chance.

On Benitez's appointment, I really don't know what to expect. We tend to perform better when we get a new manager so I'm hoping that the trend continues. Will be interesting to see what formation and line up he'd come up with.

On RDM's sacking, I do feel for him but truth to be told he also had his fair share of mistakes. He never really sorted out our troubles (esp defensive).

Mata/Hazard/Oscar aren't helping the full backs(whoever is playing on the flank that is), our DMFs are a bit poor as well, and our CB's have been average at best with Luiz piss poor. We also lack width upfront plus an actual goal scorer. Just when RDM realized the time was up for Torres and Luiz, who have been dreadful, it was too late to cry.

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Honestly, even if Rafa wins the CL, PL, and FA Cup Treble--he still won't be appointed if Pep gave the nod for the Chelsea job! What's the point honestly? Ancelotti won the Prem and FA Cup double and finished second next season, and still got sacked. And, Ancelotti is a proven manager. He's not in the RDM mold as much as I think RDM is a super cool guy.

Why would Chelsea want to sack RDM when he has done NOTHING wrong--considering their desired manager isn't even ready for the job? He just won the CL and FA Cup, damnit. It might be a fluke, but again--it's no fluke when you do it for the first time in your history and beat Barca and Munich to achieve the CL. Why not just wait until the season-end? Sure, if Chelsea win the PL, it wouldn't sound as bad, but they won't persist with Rafa even so... It makes you wonder what Chelsea's owner wants...


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Seriously, how do Chelsea fans actually manage to support that club? It's impossible to grow an affinity for a manager, and if you do, then boom, he's sacked. The players are some of the biggest cunts in world football, and they scheme to get managers sacked. The captain is a racist cunt. Almost every player is there to pick up a cheque, they don't give a fuck about the club, bar a few.

I'm not claiming that United or any other clubs have super-loyal, super-nice players and are incredibly loyal to managers (United, Arsenal and Everton excluded there...) but Christ, they're on a different level to Chelsea. Absolute joke of a club, a toy that's tinkered with by some rich Russian cunt.

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Old 11-22-2012, 07:30 AM   #697 (permalink)
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Oh look another Chelsea muppet. Enjoy Rafa Abk, he'll be gone at the end of the season. As for AVB, i defend him when its necessary. He cops a fuckload of undeserved criticism (on top of the stuff he deserves)

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Can't blame Rafa for that, I honestly thought it was a good signing after his performances in Serie A. It was just a case of another player who just couldn't get going in the premier league. There's been a lot of them, foreigners can be indifferent when signed from other countries. Doubt I told you anything you don't already know.

As for RDM was I the only person who didn't rate him?
He bought him coming off a big injury and im pretty sure he was still injured when he was signed. Its never a smart thing to buy a guy coming off an injury.
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Aquilani cost far more than 5 million pounds. Rafa isn't the greatest manager transfer wise, but he's not too bad. Just happens that the mistake of pissing off Xabi and "replacing" him with Aqua was catastrophic. Under Rafa we finished 5th (but won the CL), 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd. Sold Alonso, finished 7th and we haven't recovered. Obviously not helped by Kenny blowing a lot of the money we had from FSG on utter shite. Carroll, Downing, Adam, and to a lesser extent Hendo (b/c i still have some hope for him ) was a huge waste of money. Look at Newcastle, we funded their rise last year. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse all bought or paid for (Ba was a free) from the money we handed over for that numpty Carroll.
MOTM last weekend obv. HIS TIME IS COMING


I really liked RDM and how Chelsea were playing this year, so to see him be sacked sux. I think he'd be a decent fit at QPR, even if I want them to go down. Rafa's obviously been brought in to get the best out of , but other than that I don't know how much better he'll do than Di Matteo. Suppose time will tell though.
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Yes, it is true. Supporting Chelsea can sometimes be like how a woman will stay in an abusive relationship. You keep telling yourself that it's okay and he really loves you but he still knocks you around every time he's had a few drinks.
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