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There was also inconsistancy with what he claimed Suarez actually said going from 'n****r' to 'black'.
no the report says evra thought 'negro' was the equivalent of that, he was later told and he accepted that it meant black

also Comolli was not the only one inconsistent

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Suarez initially claimed that he pinched Evra on the arm to “defuse the situation”. When he was cross examined, he admitted this was not true.

Dalglish claimed that Suarez had been “taunted” by Evra, suggesting that Suarez’s response of “you are black” was following Evra saying “you are South American.” If this was true, Suarez wasn’t using the word “negro” in a friendly way at all, rather as an insult. Regardless, Suarez confirmed that being called “South American” was not an insult.

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Only really Comolli's account was inconsistant but he admitted not fully understanding Suarez's Spanish having learnt 'classical Spanish'. Dalglish was accused of trying to cloud Dowd's judgement because he asked "Hadn't he done this before?" about Evra and abuse accusations. Evra hadn't which the report pointed out. It did not point out however that Evra was found to have given unreliable and inconsistant evidence in an invesitigation into abuse (the Chelsea groundsman one if I remember correctly). This is was Dalglish was referring to. It also shows how Evra had a prior understanding of how the investigation would take place.

Evra's account didn't remain the same but changed several times. At the time and on the pitch he only claimed to have been abused once (and several witness statements agree Evra only made an accusation once). Then afterwards in the interview he claimed he had been abused 10 times. Then this was reduced during the actual investiagtion to around five times. There was also inconsistancy with what he claimed Suarez actually said going from 'n****r' to 'black'. Evra was not consistant at all but with everything the FA came down on his side.
I believe it was Comolli, Kuyt and Dalglish that were all found to give inconsistent reports with Suarez saying they all misunderstood him, then changing his version of events after. That's without trawling through the report now. I think it was also said that Evra's use of 'ten times' was a turn of phrase, rather than an exact thing. Same way as if someone came off the pitch saying 'he kicked a few times'. Again, without checking, that's all on memory and it was a while ago.

Either way, at the time the report came out, most people read it and seemed to consider it fair, and it was only the majority of Liverpool fans who took it as one word against another and the FA believed who they want. It's fan prerogative though, anyone who says they aren't biased towards their club is lying, either to themselves or everyone else.
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no the report says evra thought 'negro' was the equivalent of that, he was later told and he accepted that it meant black

also Comolli was not the only one inconsistent
Evra said to Ferguson that he called him n****r (I do feel a bit stupid writing it like that since I'm only quoting what I read but I don't know if there are rules about it or not). He later conceeded that it was negro and that he didn't know that negro meant black. That raises two questions for me, 1) why he told the ref Suarez had called him black (I know he claimed it was because he didn't like to use the n word but there has been evidence of that not being true at all) and 2) how can somebody who is able to give a personal insult in a foreign language (and 'you're sisters cunt' is a colloquial insult in Spain/South America) not know what the colour black is in that language? I knew that negro meant black simply from eating Spanish food so how can Evra have somehow missed such a common Spanish word?

Dalglish's statement came from Comolli's info. Comolli's statement is certainly an issue to Suarez's defence but the fact that so much weight was put on certain aspects of it and not others just shows the biased reading of the statements. Nor do I find Comolli's statement to break Suarez's defence, I do believe that Comolli did not speak the same type of Spanish as Suarez. Same with Evra actually.

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