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Oh the Suarez/Evra debate again. At the time of it happening, I was initially on Suarez' side, as I was under the impression that all Suarez had done was use a Spanish word 'Negrito', which is not an offensive term in of itself, however I actually read a lot of the document the FA released after making their decision, and I have to say that the FA made the right call. Based on testimony of various people (including both Kuyt and Comolli, Liverpool employees at the time), Suarez actually used much harsher words than simply calling Evra 'negrito'. There was even suggestion that the phrase 'because you are black' was thrown in there. So I don't really know how anyone can defend Suarez on that one.
I want to make one thing clear. I'm not defending Suarez here, I'm not saying what he said is OK. What I believe is that he never said any of those things, that the 'evidence' was hand picked by the FA who made judgement calls against Suarez to enable them to find him 'probably guilty' and the whole situation was a farce from start to finish. That's what I'm getting at. I'm not "defending racism" as we were accused of doing.

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I dont know where liverpool fans got the idea that suarez said 'negrito', suarez even admits he says 'negro'
Yes, which can be a used in a friendly fashion.

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Best thing to come from it all was seeing kenny in that t-shirt.
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I want to make one thing clear. I'm not defending Suarez here, I'm not saying what he said is OK. What I believe is that he never said any of those things, that the 'evidence' was hand picked by the FA who made judgement calls against Suarez to enable them to find him 'probably guilty' and the whole situation was a farce from start to finish. That's what I'm getting at. I'm not "defending racism" as we were accused of doing.
read the report, liverpool witnesses were unreliable. Kuyt even said Evra said to the referee 'you're only booking me because im black', you'd think the referee would remember something like that.

Also suarez claims that it was a friendly conversation was not backed up by the video evidence.

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read the report, liverpool witnesses were unreliable. Kuyt even said Evra said to the referee 'you're only booking me because im black', you'd think the referee would remember something like that.

Also suarez claims that it was a friendly conversation was not backed up by the video evidence.
The video evidence is unlcear (as stated in the report) except for one section when both Evra and Suarez head towards the ref. The accusation was that the abuse happened before then. Everything Suarez said happened in that exchange (which was basically just arm gestures) was verified despite him not being able to watch video footage of the incident (but Evra being allowed to).

Marriner could not fully recall the initial accusation made by Evra so his memory isn't infallible.

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Kenny only made them t-shirts so he could sell some merch and recoup some of that Andy Carroll money

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