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Old 01-14-2013, 02:37 PM   #6251 (permalink)
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The English game seems to be all about monetising passion now, and in the long run that'll be the exact thing that kills off the true fans. Imagine a league where every game is like Wembley, empty seats until the 55th minute because of the complimentary half time champage and h'ors d'oeuvre. The controversy over Arsenal's ticket prices on the weekend was much needed, but you know the top teams aren't going to be reducing what they charge any time soon.

Still, getting to watch a player with the quality of Van Persie playing for your team every week - it ain't all bad.
I really can forsee more clubs forming in the model of FCUM and AFC Wimbledon in years to come. I know there's been talk between fans of a few clubs about breaking away, setting up a small non league club and just sacking off all the hassle and control that comes with being a premier league support. Don't get me started on some of the people who come to games. Leaving on 75 mins, staying in the hospitality area well into the second half, on their phones all game, barely rising out of their seat for a goal etc. Jesus christ. The top teams will very likely never drop their prices, mainly because the FA have the bollocks and resolve of a child and will happily remain mute on any discussion so long as the money keeps coming in and interest in football remains at an all time high.

They've moved on years ago from the hardcore fans. Today's generation is all about attracting the yuppies as Del Boy would call 'em. All money and no sense. Happy to pay mickey mouse prices because they haven't any perspective on what constitutes a fair price and have the money to pay whatever they're asked. In return they'll do as they're told, raid the club store for merchandise and provide a warm dependable seat for the club to make money off of year on year.

I suppose so long as you have mates you can still make the most of a day, at least that's my motto anyway.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #6252 (permalink)
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It does seem like for a very vocal section of any clubs support, they get dissatisfied when not winning and playing great football. Us, Arsenal, City etc. It's like it overshadows the whole day out, having a laugh, seeing friends, having a piss up and a singsong aspect.

People leaving at 75/80 minutes is crazy, especially at OT. Something will nearly always happen in the last 5 minutes, I know they want to miss the traffic/busiest public transport times, but surely if you care enough to pay those prices, you can deal with getting home a little later. Pisstake really.
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Its a huge pet peeve of mine frankly. You pay your money, you stay and clap your team off the pitch, win or lose. People who just leave early to get home for the drivel that awaits them on TV or just to get home 40 minutes later truly irritate me. If you have work the next morning and desperately need to make a train home then I can understand. But you know so many are just leaving for the wrong reasons. Its also getting beyond a joke now at OT. Its not a case of a few heading home, by the 88th minutes there are 000s of empty seats in the North Stand especially. Ridiculous.

Its the price of success. You get so many fans with different reasons for enjoying football. People who go for a laugh and to make an atmosphere, others who just love the game itself, others just attracted by success or good football etc. When you get a bigger club with a worldwide support and especially the age of the internet where every tom, dick and harry can voice their opinion its always bound to infuriate those who really don't care about whether their team should be signing the next brazilian wonderkid because his passing and dribbling stats exceed that of the best winger currently at the club etc.
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The problem with the EPL is that it's all money driven. To clubs, football is seen as a business rather than a sport.

The EPL & it's teams could learn a thing or 2 from the Bundesliga
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:12 PM   #6256 (permalink)
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Its a huge pet peeve of mine frankly. You pay your money, you stay and clap your team off the pitch, win or lose. People who just leave early to get home for the drivel that awaits them on TV or just to get home 40 minutes later truly irritate me. If you have work the next morning and desperately need to make a train home then I can understand. But you know so many are just leaving for the wrong reasons. Its also getting beyond a joke now at OT. Its not a case of a few heading home, by the 88th minutes there are 000s of empty seats in the North Stand especially. Ridiculous.

Its the price of success. You get so many fans with different reasons for enjoying football. People who go for a laugh and to make an atmosphere, others who just love the game itself, others just attracted by success or good football etc. When you get a bigger club with a worldwide support and especially the age of the internet where every tom, dick and harry can voice their opinion its always bound to infuriate those who really don't care about whether their team should be signing the next brazilian wonderkid because his passing and dribbling stats exceed that of the best winger currently at the club etc.
That's spot on, and you can never begrudge anyone who gets enjoyment from following a football team, regardless of where they're from. As long as the clubs cater to the match going fans, everything's great. Unfortunately we know that isn't the case.
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Yup, does my head in about where you're from. If you're a fan who'll follow the team regardless of success, will make an effort to attend games wherever possible then you're a supporter. I've met Mancs who were terrible bores and infuriated me standing next to them at OT and seen Irish lads singing louder and leading an array of old school songs. So long as you've got a sound head and are fully committed to the team you support you shouldn't have to put up with any drivel from people about location. Its just a form of banter to try and get under someone's skin, especially if they follow a bigger club. No-one really cares if someone from Coventry follows Leyton Orient, because there's nothing to really latch onto there outside of the person following a non-local team.

Besides, being local doesn't necessarily make you a better class of supporter. I'm more biased in favour of people who actually go to games to actively support their team, i.e being loud and trying to get behind them whatever the score rather than moaning at every misplaced pass. I've seen local fans sit there showing little passion for their side whilst people around me will be making continuous noise and supporting the team regardless of the score. There's no definition of a true fan and it really does irk me how some people try to talk as if they're better than others. Especially when the same people will blatantly ignore their own team having out of town supporters, when they'll give flack to someone who supports another side not being from that area.

To quote Ian Brown: "Its not where you're from, but where you're at".
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WOOLCOCK and NoGimmicksNeeded should have their own show, Saint and Greavsie-style.
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Jelavic showing off Everton's number of European Cups
Then why hasn't he got 1 finger raised for our European Cup Winners Cup then?

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i never got this leaving early deal

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1) youre wasting money
2) not supporting the team

what the fuck is so important you have to be back so soon?

even if my team is losing (and believe me, some games over the last years had me questioning why the fuck im watching that crap) and even if the team seems lifeless, i cant imagine not watching till the last whistle.

Now, there is probably an ocean of difference of watching on TV and at the stand, but I dont understand. What the fuck is so important that you have to leave midgame? Youve already set that time aside to watch the bloody team!

btw anyone seen the hamann/barton twitter feud?
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