[NoGimmicksNeeded]

It does seem like for a very vocal section of any clubs support, they get dissatisfied when not winning and playing great football. Us, Arsenal, City etc. It's like it overshadows the whole day out, having a laugh, seeing friends, having a piss up and a singsong aspect.

People leaving at 75/80 minutes is crazy, especially at OT. Something will nearly always happen in the last 5 minutes, I know they want to miss the traffic/busiest public transport times, but surely if you care enough to pay those prices, you can deal with getting home a little later. Pisstake really.

[WOOLCOCK]

Its a huge pet peeve of mine frankly. You pay your money, you stay and clap your team off the pitch, win or lose. People who just leave early to get home for the drivel that awaits them on TV or just to get home 40 minutes later truly irritate me. If you have work the next morning and desperately need to make a train home then I can understand. But you know so many are just leaving for the wrong reasons. Its also getting beyond a joke now at OT. Its not a case of a few heading home, by the 88th minutes there are 000s of empty seats in the North Stand especially. Ridiculous.

Its the price of success. You get so many fans with different reasons for enjoying football. People who go for a laugh and to make an atmosphere, others who just love the game itself, others just attracted by success or good football etc. When you get a bigger club with a worldwide support and especially the age of the internet where every tom, dick and harry can voice their opinion its always bound to infuriate those who really don't care about whether their team should be signing the next brazilian wonderkid because his passing and dribbling stats exceed that of the best winger currently at the club etc.

[nazzac]

The problem with the EPL is that it's all money driven. To clubs, football is seen as a business rather than a sport.

The EPL & it's teams could learn a thing or 2 from the Bundesliga

[AlexHumph]

Originally Posted by nazzac

The problem with the EPL is that it's all money driven. To clubs, football is seen as a business rather than a sport.

[NoGimmicksNeeded]

Originally Posted by WOOLCOCK

Its a huge pet peeve of mine frankly. You pay your money, you stay and clap your team off the pitch, win or lose. People who just leave early to get home for the drivel that awaits them on TV or just to get home 40 minutes later truly irritate me. If you have work the next morning and desperately need to make a train home then I can understand. But you know so many are just leaving for the wrong reasons. Its also getting beyond a joke now at OT. Its not a case of a few heading home, by the 88th minutes there are 000s of empty seats in the North Stand especially. Ridiculous.

Its the price of success. You get so many fans with different reasons for enjoying football. People who go for a laugh and to make an atmosphere, others who just love the game itself, others just attracted by success or good football etc. When you get a bigger club with a worldwide support and especially the age of the internet where every tom, dick and harry can voice their opinion its always bound to infuriate those who really don't care about whether their team should be signing the next brazilian wonderkid because his passing and dribbling stats exceed that of the best winger currently at the club etc.

That's spot on, and you can never begrudge anyone who gets enjoyment from following a football team, regardless of where they're from. As long as the clubs cater to the match going fans, everything's great. Unfortunately we know that isn't the case.

[WOOLCOCK]

Yup, does my head in about where you're from. If you're a fan who'll follow the team regardless of success, will make an effort to attend games wherever possible then you're a supporter. I've met Mancs who were terrible bores and infuriated me standing next to them at OT and seen Irish lads singing louder and leading an array of old school songs. So long as you've got a sound head and are fully committed to the team you support you shouldn't have to put up with any drivel from people about location. Its just a form of banter to try and get under someone's skin, especially if they follow a bigger club. No-one really cares if someone from Coventry follows Leyton Orient, because there's nothing to really latch onto there outside of the person following a non-local team.

Besides, being local doesn't necessarily make you a better class of supporter. I'm more biased in favour of people who actually go to games to actively support their team, i.e being loud and trying to get behind them whatever the score rather than moaning at every misplaced pass. I've seen local fans sit there showing little passion for their side whilst people around me will be making continuous noise and supporting the team regardless of the score. There's no definition of a true fan and it really does irk me how some people try to talk as if they're better than others. Especially when the same people will blatantly ignore their own team having out of town supporters, when they'll give flack to someone who supports another side not being from that area.

To quote Ian Brown: "Its not where you're from, but where you're at".

[Anark]

WOOLCOCK and NoGimmicksNeeded should have their own show, Saint and Greavsie-style.

[ROUSEY]

Originally Posted by DwayneAustin

Jelavic showing off Everton's number of European Cups

Then why hasn't he got 1 finger raised for our European Cup Winners Cup then?

Dumbass.

[JOAL.com]

i never got this leaving early deal

Youre
1) youre wasting money
2) not supporting the team

what the fuck is so important you have to be back so soon?

even if my team is losing (and believe me, some games over the last years had me questioning why the fuck im watching that crap) and even if the team seems lifeless, i cant imagine not watching till the last whistle.

Now, there is probably an ocean of difference of watching on TV and at the stand, but I dont understand. What the fuck is so important that you have to leave midgame? Youve already set that time aside to watch the bloody team!

btw anyone seen the hamann/barton twitter feud?

[WWE_TNA]

It annoys me aswell i know it might be rich coming from myself while i'm watching it on TV but when i see droves of people leaving Old Trafford as early as the 85th minute maybe ealrier it really does annoy the fuck out of me, i mean people were doing it yesterday not as early but you could see people leaving well before the 94th minute against fucking liverpool.

Yeah Redead barton acting like a cunt again, sometimes well not sometimes but on the odd occasion i agree with him but he just goes about things the wrong way. It's all a bit rich coming from him who has beat up team mates, youth players and kids outside of mcdonalds, he thinks he's some super intelligent human being because he reads.