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Old 01-07-2013, 12:58 PM   #5351 (permalink)
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I realise Anne Frank was probably more optimistic than am I usually when discussing things off field, but this takes the bloody cake.

I know a Luton mate who linked me to a few posts on one of their forums. For anyone unaware, they knocked out Wolves in the cup at the weekend and drew Norwich away. They've been given a 4000 allocation priced at £10. A remarkably good value considering they pay more for home games in the conference, as well as the fact Norwich could easily have charged more and still had Luton bring a good following, since the novelty of a 4th round FA Cup tie at a premier league club will draw in a lot of fans.

Anyways, some on their forums are apparently unhappy at being charged £10, instead wanting to be charged more!! He's always telling me a lot of the support piss him off because they're constantly obsessed with promotion to the point they'll swallow any excuse the club give them, but this takes the gravy:









Those are ridiculous. In an era where there are people crying out for ticket prices to be lowered there are still fans who, when given a bargain, want them to be higher than they are. Mate, that's astounding. A tenner for a ticket in 2013 is a steal. Taking into consideration travel expenses and the like, I think that's massively courteous of both Norwich and Luton. I can't understand it. I can see maybe they're afraid of not being able to get tickets because people who can only afford that will snap them up, but surely anyone willing to travel the 100 miles or so to Norwich deserve the bargain.

Could you imagine if the prices were increased for this ridiculous reason, how the other fans would react?

Not even like it's two rival clubs were it can be used as banter or more to say how cheap they are. Absolutely crazy.
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Them Luton fans quotes are outstanding.

Suarez being a cheat isn't an opinion. It's a fact. There's been too many cases of him blatantly cheating to gain an advantage. Doesn't mean the commentator should be calling him a cheat so directly though, especially on a channel like ESPN with a large audience base. He isn't wrong but it was obviously not going to go down well and was a tad unprofessional.
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Those are ridiculous. In an era where there are people crying out for ticket prices to be lowered there are still fans who, when given a bargain, want them to be higher than they are. Mate, that's astounding. A tenner for a ticket in 2013 is a steal. Taking into consideration travel expenses and the like, I think that's massively courteous of both Norwich and Luton. I can't understand it. I can see maybe they're afraid of not being able to get tickets because people who can only afford that will snap them up, but surely anyone willing to travel the 100 miles or so to Norwich deserve the bargain.

Could you imagine if the prices were increased for this ridiculous reason, how the other fans would react?

Not even like it's two rival clubs were it can be used as banter or more to say how cheap they are. Absolutely crazy.
Pretty much. I appreciate smaller clubs obviously rejoice at the revenue they get if they secure a 'glamour' tie, but it astounds me how a promotion push is that important that they'd sooner pay £20 extra in the hope a few extra £000s could be spent on a couple of players. I realise its a club messageboard but fuck me are there some weird cretins who buy into this whole promotion faff far too much. Yes it would be great to go up and play at new grounds and progress up the league, but there's a difference between wanting progress and then wanting to pay outlandish prices to get there.

I'm always reminded of the Cardiff scandal over the summer with their iconic kit and crest being franchised with the new owners thinking donning red colours helps their possible marketability. Amount of muppets who bought into that myth and lambasted those protesting honestly left me embarrassed. There are more important things than promotion and relegation, the history, identity and image of your club being three.
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Them Luton fans quotes are outstanding.

Suarez being a cheat isn't an opinion. It's a fact. There's been too many cases of him blatantly cheating to gain an advantage. Doesn't mean the commentator should be calling him a cheat so directly though, especially on a channel like ESPN with a large audience base. He isn't wrong but it was obviously not going to go down well and was a tad unprofessional.
All footballers cheat though (well 99% of them). Defenders claiming Forwards dived when they know they clattered them. Forwards claiming they've been clattered when they haven't been touched. Players demanding another player is sent off. Handballs like Suarez's happen all the time on the pitch in different variations. Players claim corners and throw ins they know aren't theirs. There's loads of stuff you could point to. If you're going to pick up on all of it then fair enough but Suarez is an easy target. I know he has made a rod to beat himself with like but to single him out for something that 99% of players would do is a bit one-eyed. If it had happened against us I would have been annoyed but I wouldn't have blamed the player.
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The sad deluded owners even referenced United and Liverpool as the basis that their shirt sales/merchandise is ridiculous in Asia, thus Cardiff should be able to supposedly gain a mass following as well.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the respective histories, numerous influential players and managers both United & Liverpool have produced, no its simply down to them not wearing blue/green/yellow. It still amazes me people actually buy that crap as genuine and actually think you'll suddenly see an influx of Cardiff City asians by simply changing the colour of their kit.

Then again, I once saw someone say they'd attempt to sue people standing in front of them if it persisted, so I really shouldn't be astounded at the low levels of intelligence amongst a section of football supporters.
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Isn't it supposed to be lucky in Asia or something though which is why the owners changed it? Still a disgrace like.
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^ as far as I know it was purely marketed as 'in the greater interests of the club's expansion'. So basically they sold it as a long term investment that would pay off via promotion into the Premier League and sad twats honestly were more concerned at playing United and Liverpool than they were the history and integrity of their club.
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Pretty much. I appreciate smaller clubs obviously rejoice at the revenue they get if they secure a 'glamour' tie, but it astounds me how a promotion push is that important that they'd sooner pay £20 extra in the hope a few extra £000s could be spent on a couple of players. I realise its a club messageboard but fuck me are there some weird cretins who buy into this whole promotion faff far too much. Yes it would be great to go up and play at new grounds and progress up the league, but there's a difference between wanting progress and then wanting to pay outlandish prices to get there.

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That's it. If they really thought about it, many of the smaller football clubs have donation systems set up, if they feel that they have been undercharged then they should get together and give it straight into the club. I think this, as a reward for support and in hope to get as many fans there is they can, is a logical way to go about it. I don't know how much you get for advancing through to the fifth round of the FA cup, but I would be sure it's more than they'd receive if they through another fiver onto the ticket price. Cheap tickets prices + more support = a stronger chance to win and motivation for the players which in turn = Cup advancement bonus and another tie to gain revenue.

To me, it feels like they've thought about it and thought "You know what, we're the smaller club, let's reward the fans by offering as cheap tickets as we possibly can and then if we end up suffering a defeat in nature to our league positions then at least we haven't tried to turn our own fans over."

I am not a fan of a lower league club except for a few semi-pro teams I have friends in, and Welsh prem teams I have family in, so I don't really know the ins and outs of a club like this in terms of revenue, but I would think common sense would show you that the legacy of the club would mean more if you managed to be successful in a way that you can look back on and be proud of. It's like when new owners come into a club and run it into the ground and they end up being relegated from the top divisions, those other teams left in those divisions look at them and then look at their own fans begging for it and use the failure as an example. I digress, but wanting your own club to higher prices because you feel like they're not trying to make enough money is illogical, especially when there are systems to donate and club merchandise to buy, things that the club itself is guaranteed to benefit from.
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Tell you what, if you can some how convincingly defend Suarez, you're wasting your time on an internet forum. You should be in court defending rapists and murderers who have no chance of getting away.

Fortunately you can't, because he has no defence. He's a horrible, slimy creature who deserves every nasty tackle and deserves to never win a penalty from all his diving.
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