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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens

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I'm not really interested in statistics such 'best defence in the league' because you can also point out how Stoke have only scored 21 league goals, only two teams have scored less.
Football is a results business. Good defences get you results just as much as scoring goals.(unless you're United who have 3 top strikers at their disposal)

When he took over again Stoke were mid table in the Championship. Now a mid table Premier League side, FA Cup final 2 years ago and European football. He deserves some credit.

Because Wolves on the other hand were mid-low table Premier League side, now mid table Championship.
I know Wolves have nothing to do with what we're discussing but it's the polar opposite of Stoke

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Manager of the Year - David Moyes
Player of the Year - Robin Van Persie
Best youth player - Have no clue depending on age range maybe Rafael (waits for the flaming)
Best summer signing - Michu
Worst summer signing - Half of QPR's team
Goal of the season - The villa team goal vs liverpool or Jerome vs southampton
Biggest surprise - Swansea or West Brom
Biggest disappointment - Valencia/Nani
(Any) Prediction for the 2nd half: Arsenal to finish 3rd and Mancini to knock mario out get the sack and then city hire Kean.


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens

Good call on QPR. Completely forgot about them. Bosingwa is definitely the worst signing of the summer. Can't believe someone in England actually gave him a job.
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It's bizarre seeing RAWK quotes about Suarez' goal vs Newcastle, especially being mentioned as one of the best goals ever & a work of rare footballing genius, then only one person mentioning it as goal of the first half of the season so far.

Not that RAWK isn't generally bizarre.
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Good call on QPR. Completely forgot about them. Bosingwa is definitely the worst signing of the summer. Can't believe someone in England actually gave him a job.
If you had to think, 'If someone in England was to give him a job, who would it be?', then its rather obvious.

Manager of the Year - Michael Laudrup (changed Swansea's style, brought in some good signings and, has them slightly better off than Rodgers did.)
Player of the Year - Robin van Persie
Youth Player OTY - Rafael
Best summer signing - Michu
Worst summer signing - Bosingwa, Scott Sinclair, Javi Garcia
Biggest surprise - RVP recovering from his near death experience, Aston Villa conceding 15 goals in 3 games.
Biggest disappointment - Newcastle's injury problems/form.

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Football is a results business. Good defences get you results just as much as scoring goals.(unless you're United who have 3 top strikers at their disposal)

When he took over again Stoke were mid table in the Championship. Now a mid table Premier League side, FA Cup final 2 years ago and European football. He deserves some credit.

Because Wolves on the other hand were mid-low table Premier League side, now mid table Championship.
I know Wolves have nothing to do with what we're discussing but it's the polar opposite of Stoke
I know football is a results based buisness and that's why I'm telling you that the defending stats are irrelevant. Clean sheets + lack of goals = mid table. Pulis has spent a fortune to turn Stoke into an average football side that plays average football at best. My argument is that other managers have performed at similar/higher levels this season with smaller budgets. The only stats that really matter are points when it comes down to it.

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any credit at all, he still had to get results despite being afforded a huge wage bill (I remember all of the loans in 06-07, fuckin warz!), but to say that he's the best performing manager in the league is going over the top. There are plenty of far more worthy candidates.

If you want to bring Wolves into this then fine. Instead of backing their manager (Mick McCarthy) they (Jeff Moxley and co) decided to build a huge stand that they didn't need. McCarthy had a net spend of -3 million that season (11/12). Later the Wolves 'fans' got on McCarthy's back despite the fact that he was doing his best working with a small budget. The fan apathy lead to Mick being sacked before his totally inept (as a manager) number two Terry Connor stood in and sunk the ship. The difference between the two clubs were the boards and their decision making skills, not the two managers that had built them up. Pulis is fortunate to be backed by a great board, McCarthy wasn't.




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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens

I miss Mick so much

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He's doing a fucking good job at the scum to be fair, shame that a solid manager like him had to go there.



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I miss him as a pundit, he always gave me a couple of laughs when he was commentating at an International tournament on the BBC

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I'd love him to come back as Ireland manager one day

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