Originally Posted by Rudolph Ziggler
The amount of shit Ferguson gets in unbelievable considering they keep on winning. It may not always be pretty, but they keep winning. Some United fans make out like they've got it so bad.
I would usually agree with this comment but last season, some of Ferguson's mind-boggling tactics and team selections cost us, especially in the big games. This season, he's done it a few times also and it has cost us wins but we have stayed on top as City have also struggled plus Chelsea did dip in form for a bit. However, we've been lucky at times getting the results as RVP or Hernandez have dug us out of the shit. That or Ferguson ends up making the right substitution in the end.
I just hope Ferguson realises that Scholes/Carrick and Scholes/Giggs together just doesn't work.
Originally Posted by Irish Jet
Not sure why everyone's on Evra's case these days. I actually think he's improved significantly defensively in the last month or so while he's been excellent going forward. I was as low on him as anyone heading into the season but he's done okay, wasn't at fault for the goals today at all.
Evra has been our worst defender by far this season. I've always said that he's been decent to good going forward this season with a couple of assists and 4 goals. However, defensively (which should be his first priority) he's been poor. Rafael isn't really to blame as he's been our best player this season, Evans has continued to improve and has actually been pretty good so far. Ferdinand has been hit and miss; good in the big games but dreadful in the other games. Evra though, besides maybe one or two games has been a huge liability at the back.
He continues to jog back when he's at fault for losing possession or the attack is happening down his flank. He always leaves acres of space for the opposition to attack and a lot of the time he stays in a centreback position when a winger is about to distribute a cross and leaves it to someone else to try and block it when it should be his job. He just doesn't show urgency in getting back like he does going forward.
That and he's been at fault for a lot of our goals conceded. The Swansea game, he just did nothing and just held his arms out when he was the one not in his proper position defending and instead pointed the blame at others. The Newcastle game was a perfect example of him messing things up for us defensively as he didn't even try to close down the shot which resulted in the Evans own goal. He just stood off his man and gave them plenty of time to shoot.
If Evra showed as much urgency going forward at the back, that would be great. The fact is he doesn't and his lazy defending is always going to be highlighted and rightfully so as he does it every game. The last game I remember he was outstanding both in attack and defensively was the Arsenal away game back in January.
Originally Posted by Irish Jet
Aside from his debut, Buttner has been nothing short of woeful in every game he's played.
Beside the Chelsea Capital One Cup where Moses completely dominated him, Buttner had a great game against Wigan (his debut like you mentioned), was solid against Newcastle in the Capital One Cup and was good against Galatasaray away. He's still very raw and has a lot to learn but he's at least tried to close down his man unlike Evra. I wouldn't mind seeing Buttner being given another chance just to give Evra competition to fight for his spot.
I do wish Fabio was an option though as I'd choose him over the two in a heartbeat.
Also, the fact some United fans (me included) tend to moan on here when things aren't going our way or the team isn't performing is justified sometimes. Sure we're top of the league but this could easily backfire on us, which it did last season when we stopped performing and didn't know how to defend. Plus, how can you enjoy watching United when sometimes they play like shit. They may get the win in the end but of course it's going to aggravate you during the game if the team play DAT ZOMBIE FOOTBALL at the half-way point of the season. The Swansea game I enjoyed how we played even though we didn't win, I enjoyed how we played against Sunderland (minus the last 10-15 minutes) but that first half against Newcastle, no United fan would ever enjoy that. Plus, I had a hangover, so that didn't help.
As for yesterday, the first half against Newcastle we were absolutely abysmal. Some of the worst, most sloppy football we've played this season. Second half was a different story, we moved the ball better and created a lot of chances. As soon as Scholes went off, our midfield didn't look that static. Cleverley showed energy and purpose when he came on and drove our attacks forward. Giggs had a good game second half on the left, Chicharito and Van Persie got better as time went on and Carrick was sublime at times.
It was a joy to see United turn it around and win 4-3 but we need to stop conceding first and conceding this silly goals as eventually it will cost us.
Good news that Kagawa will be available on Saturday. Hopefully Rafael isn't too far away either. I'd love to see a Vidic/Evans partnership for Saturday or even a Vidic/Smalling partnership.