Originally Posted by Shepard
Figure WOOLCOCK will be interested by this. Ridiculous really if they want to try and enforce it when the majority of the south west corner sings "we'll stand if we want" during matches. Unless they plan on banning the most vocal area of the stadium.
Also today made me see the downfall of throwing away fans up in the gods. It's understandable since when we gave them the south stand and Wigan brought 50 fans it looked bad but when City sell out their allocation and you get an atmosphere like today I was wishing they would actually have been in a decent place for the fans to have a bit banter. Oh well.
Seen it elsewhere, utterly ridiculous decision. Been told the FSF are looking into it since it seems ridiculous to ban someone for doing something that can't be proven to be unsafe. Just them picking out a random individual to make an example out of and hope it spreads to the others, which it won't. If standing was truly unsafe you'd get games being halted whilst stewards tried to enforce regulations, but they only make an attempt when its a small pocket of fans who they think they can bully and intimidate. There's a reason 200 Bristol City fans will be hassled at Leeds but 500 Millwall or 5,000 Man Utd won't be, the stewards just will not get into that sort of environment because they know they stand no chance and would sooner incite trouble instead of preventing it.
I don't even know why a club like Sunderland bothers with this sort of thing. The South West corner has stood in numbers for years and represents a small pocket of the ground. All the talk about regulations and fines is just a scare tactic to get casual fans onside in pointing out those who stand. No club will be fined or have sections of the ground closed by a Local Council because it cannot be proven that removing the threat of 'persistant standing' is necessary for preserving health and safety. You'd think Sunderland would just leave these lot to it since nothing will ever come about from it rather than alienating a core part of their support which let's be honest they could do with keeping close to them given attendances would very likely drop if they slide down the table. Not a dig on Sunderland per se, just a sad reflection of the typical attitudes of a casual modern day supporter.
Seeing reactions from some United fans reminds me why I don't bother getting caught up in all the hysteria anymore. If we lose we move on to the next game and try to correct the wrongs. Amount of fussing over trivial things annoys me to no end. Its a game of football. Grab a beer or ten, have a laugh, enjoy the atmosphere and just make the most out of the day, win or lose. Your team will still be there next week. Wish more people had the FCUM attitude of just enjoying football and making the most out of a day regardless of the result. Too many things in life that can bring you down without worrying about who's stats represent good value for money and all that jazz. It was an entertaining, chaotic and typical Boxing Day game. United can't be considered champions elect given how inconsistent they are in periods throughout every game as well as the nature of the Premier League these days making it hard to predict any result.
City are a big club in the sense that their money and newfound success is making them the new thing to follow in football, the same way Chelsea found newfound fame around 2004-2006 when Mourinho was at the healm. They're a traditional old school club with the likes of Forest, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Villa and others. They're by no means in the leagues of the elite of European Football in a traditional sense but with how short sighted football is these days to many they're up there with the Madrid's and Milan's of the game just because they're winning trophies and challenging for titles. Liverpool historically are a far bigger and iconic club but in today's world that counts for very little to your average fan who's only concerned with short term results and trophies.
Also seen the Forest manager got sacked yesterday after a 4-2 win at home to Leeds, 8th in the league and a couple of points off the play off spots. This all done supposedly with a thrown together team consisting of numerous loan deals and players leaving. The argument from the foreign owners being that they were concerned at the inconsistency in the results and want short term results. Bonkers decision and the epitome of modern football greed. Poor bloke takes a thrown together team and gets them within touching distance of the playoffs in arguably the most inconsistent and haphazard league and is sacked presumably because they're looking for a bigger name to takeover and raise the image of the club. Cunts.
May as well reward anyone who took the time to read this rambling drivel that you've heard 1000 times before, enjoy: