[Ziggs]

And btw, i couldnt imagine supporting a club that isnt mine like Benfica is, if we were sold, that would be the end for me.

[Kiz]

that really is kind of sad. a club cannot have a proud history unless they have won a lot of titles and feel the need to flaunt it over everyone else. every club has history, and every fan should be proud of their respective clubs history. it's not all just about how many titles a club has won. it's about the club itself, the players, the characters, the fans, the area, the highs, the lows, that's what football is really about. not just flopping your dick out and saying WE HAVE MORE TROPHIES THAN YOU~!~!~!

we were only sold because we were on the brink of administration. our current owners chose us due to our potential to grow and our rich, proud history, and have said as such, and educated themselves about the club when they met with guys like garry cook and gary james about purchasing the club.

[Ziggs]

But you had owners before this, do the clue associates have any word in your destiny?

[King Kenny]

[Chain Gang Soldier]

Oh boy. History lesson kids

I'd still say we are an overall bigger club than City but give or take a few years and all that can very well change. Were pretty much slipping into midtable mediocrity through basically our own fault. Even after the 09/10 and 10/11 season we could still bring in some decent names but instead we kept buying average talent and further slipped that the league and thus basically put ourselves in a position whereby we stopped ourselves from getting the big name guys.

[Kiz]

i've never said we're a bigger club than liverpool. we're not. in terms of name value, liverpool are bigger than us. no shame in that, they're bigger than most clubs in world football.

however, we are currently a big club. that's my point. we're a big club laden with rich history. of course there are bigger clubs than us. there's bigger clubs than liverpool too. does that remove their big club status?

[JJJ1303]

In my opinion there are 3 types of big clubs
1) The historical- well known for their past success but not really challenging now (The Liverpool, I suppose you could argue Arsenal in the sense they haven't really won anything recently but they are somewhere inbetween)
2) The Current- Might have some history but best known for their current accomplishments (The City, to some extent the Chelsea)
3) The Combined- Big history and still have big accomplishments right now (The Man Utd)

[BANKSY]

Saying a team doesn't have history is stupid. The only club I could think that being an appropriate term for is MK Dons.

Also Cardiff and their new Red Era

[Destiny]

It's all about dat history.



Liverpool is still a 'big' club but we haven't been a 'top' side for a long time now. Every team has history though.

[haribo]

Dunno how anyone can defend Evra's inability to defend. Sure, he's not the only one at the back to be playing crap but in no way has he been playing well. In the final third he's good but shows absolutely zero desire in getting back and doing his job. Should've done better for both the second & third Newcastle goals. There was a point late on where he did a wank cross straight into Krul's arms then as Newcastle looked to counter it took him 15 seconds to even cross the half way line. Very lucky not to punished down that side. It's easy to single him out because he's always making defensive errors - not in possession of the ball - but his positioning and pathetic attempt at tackles.


Just seen RAWK meltdown for the first time in a while:

(AC Milan win Champions League 2007) We are still the GREATEST CLUB IN THE WORLD let them celebrate because they'll never have what we have

(Emile Heskey) ...he reminded me of Ronaldo in his Barca pomp the way he burst between two defenders using pace and strength

(Rafa Benitez) ...actually I rate him higher than Ferguson and Guardiola. Still undecided on Maureen (Mourinho).