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post #3351 of 8823 (permalink) Old 12-23-2012, 05:34 AM
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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Van Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Huntelaar wont be going to arsenal, just signed a contract extension at Schalke

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I love Rafael, but Jones has a type of attacking play which nobody else in the United team has. He goes on these marauding runs from deep and seems unstoppable sometimes. Rio used to try it every now and then when he was younger but he was never all that good at it, but Jones always seems to create massive danger for the opposition when he steams forward.

He has an endearing naivete which as charming as it is, will be exposed as a CB. As a full back he will get away with it a lot more often.

Plus if Valencia is playing poorly, Rafael on the wing is not a bad alternative.
Oh no, I'm not denying Jones isn't an attacking threat as he is. I meant down the right flank, Rafael is far more dangerous than Jones especially with the good positions he gets in, the link-up play with Valencia and some of the overlapping runs he makes. I'm saying that in the right back role, Rafael is more of an attacking threat than Jones. The latter has shown signs of being a threat in the right back role but for me, he's not looked as dangerous on the right flank than he has when making the runs from centreback or central midfield.

However, if we're talking about attacking runs from central defence or from central midfield, Jones owns all. I agree, he goes on these brilliant runs and can dribble past a few players but one thing he does need to improve on is when to relase/pass the ball to a team mate. A few times he's made good runs but then gives the ball away cheaply or tries to take on one too many and thus, gets tackled but he'll improve on that over time.




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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Van Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yeah i would agree Rafael is better attacking wise, Jones can make those runs but he never really looks like he knows where he is going with it. Rafael makes clever runs, which Valencia can anticipate.

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Grrrr.

I'm at the point now where Bananas' post just amuse me rather than annoy me. His hate for Liverpool and Brits is outstanding.

Are MOTD intentionally trying to find the worst MOTD trio in history this season?

at the standard of refereeing too. That West Ham/Everton match was a joke. We're moving towards the point where players will just wait for balls in the air to drop back down and 50/50 challenges will be decided by Rock, Paper, Scissors. Stupid amount of games being decided by which teams is on the right end of a referee howler. There's human error and then there's not knowing the rules. Biggest sport in the world, in arguably the biggest league in the world and games are decided by who benefits most from bad referee decisions. Such a great sport, but also such a joke of a sport right now.

Sturridge isn't the striker that Liverpool need. They need a clinical finisher. Sturridge is far from a clinical finisher right now. He's like a weaker version of Suarez. Chelsea don't really need to spend mega bucks on another striker. Torres will play regardless and they'll probably recall Lukaku who I honestly think is good enough right now to slot into the Chelsea team on a semi regular basis. Bloody Belgians. I so want one. £12m if true is silly, but if they can get him reproducing his Bolton form then I guess it's worth it and it's not the fans money so why care as long as he produces the goods (which I don't think will happen fyi).

I'll take a point today quite honestly. We've produced our best form for tricky away games bar Everton this season so there's hope we'll play better than normal. If Rafael is fit then him and Valencia need to start down the right. Swansea's LB (Davies?) aint the best and a Rafael/Valencia duo will have some joy against him. Still hoping Valencia remembers how to play football.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Van Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

they can't recall lukaku unless there's a clause in there, and i very highly doubt there is one.

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Sturridge isn't the striker that Liverpool need. They need a clinical finisher. Sturridge is far from a clinical finisher right now. He's like a weaker version of Suarez. Chelsea don't really need to spend mega bucks on another striker. Torres will play regardless and they'll probably recall Lukaku who I honestly think is good enough right now to slot into the Chelsea team on a semi regular basis. Bloody Belgians. I so want one. £12m if true is silly, but if they can get him reproducing his Bolton form then I guess it's worth it and it's not the fans money so why care as long as he produces the goods (which I don't think will happen fyi).
Sturridge is the striker Liverpool deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they’ll observe him because he can take it. Because he’s not Liverpool's hero now, he is a silent striker, a watchful footballer… an ok forward...


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they can't recall lukaku unless there's a clause in there, and i very highly doubt there is one.
IIRC, there's a clause in there.
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I'd love to see us get either Villa or Huntelaar although it will be hard to get them without Champions League football
Huntelaar just signed a new contract with Schalke so good luck with that.

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Sturridge isn't the striker that Liverpool need. They need a clinical finisher. Sturridge is far from a clinical finisher right now. He's like a weaker version of Suarez. Chelsea don't really need to spend mega bucks on another striker. Torres will play regardless and they'll probably recall Lukaku who I honestly think is good enough right now to slot into the Chelsea team on a semi regular basis. Bloody Belgians. I so want one. £12m if true is silly, but if they can get him reproducing his Bolton form then I guess it's worth it and it's not the fans money so why care as long as he produces the goods (which I don't think will happen fyi).
we kinda need any striker right now. The price tag is the only thing that puts me off about Sturridge right now. Yeah he doesn't really fit a passing philosophy and yeah he isn't the most clinical of finishers but he's still a decent player. Just would rather not spend 12 mil for a bloke who we can get for compensation in 6 months.


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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Van Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Didn't Clarke basically say any club had the option to recall a loaned out player in January so Chelsea could recall him during the transfer window if they wished. Judging from his interviews he doesn't seem to feel as though it's in his control if he stays past January or not.

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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Van Persieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

if there is one (sounds like there is), im not 100% sure but clarke might be able to say no to it happening, and chelsea would have to pay a fee to get him. that doesn't sound at all right though.

there's not really any point though. cannot see chelsea not splashing out on a top line striker, so bringing lukaku back and having him be 3rd in line again would be pointless. he's much better off at west brom right now. hasn't developed that consistency. flashes of brilliance, but continually getting games will help him much more than sitting on the bench and getting 2-3 starts and a few more sub appearances. but if it does happen im more than happy to let brom have guidetti on loan in jan.

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