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2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - GAME OVER YEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!

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Old thread got too big. Leave the memories alone.

I think MAZACAR deserve to feature in the first post :mata :hazard :bosscar2

:rvp and :javy for carrying United.

:dzeko for saving City.

:suarez1 for just being Suarez.

And finally some BRAVE lads :hesk2 :barry (We need some current BRAVE VILLA smilies)

Let's see if we can kill this thread before the end of the season.
 
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Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - BRAVE BRADFORD/KICKING KIDS

honestly i wouldnt mind lampard being given a break

stay on the bench or dropped altogether

completely ridiculous for a 34 year old to be played so much, especially in an international friendly where the manager should be trying out new guns

england had over 10 years to make Lampard and gerrard work together, it bombed every time. Fuck it and move on to the next guy

also, does england even have a standard captain or starting 11 anymore?
 
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Lambert should at least get a call up, provides something different, I know his 30 but still. Good form.

And surely Jack Cork should be looked at as a defensive midfielder possibility. I mean who plays that role, Carrick?
 
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If anyone got that "soon" rep from me, it was only because I had to rep oters before giving it to Hesk again

 
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#8,267 ·
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David Beckham, take a bow, giving all his wages to charity. Got to be honest when he was at United I couldn't stand the man but I'm happy to say I was wrong, what a great pro hes been, always kept himself in shape and always stood by England even after how they treated him, any youth coaches should use him as an example to the youngsters coming through at their clubs, here's to hoping he has a successful coaching career when he finally hangs up his boots
 
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Silva is the only one who gets regular minutes. Maybe Navas. torres because of history and he predates Del Bosque running the squad

Cazorla gets minutes as a late sub, Mata is arguably one of the top 3 players in the premier league right now (not that i want him him playing mind you), Arteta will never get a second, LLorente even when he was still good he was left off the bench, Benat (seen his work lately) is pretty damn good and can slot into almost every english starting 11.

Then you have Isco, Javi Martinez, and im sure more and talent that I've never heard of but is probably pretty fantastic

Though to be fair, Spain's is probably more to do with the sheer buckets of talent they have, but a ton of talent gets neglected.
 
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Not really the same. Spain have the best squad in the world that shouldn't be changed. England are just picking the same average players all the time. Just look at the players who struggle to even make a Spain squad. Guys like fucking Soldado. Pretty sure their second choice XI would beat most international teams. Heck their U-21 would give most a run for their money too. Incredible depth and they just keep churning more and more out.

Grrrr :bigirimana
 
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i dont understand the england selection. didnt woy make a big deal about youth? why is one of the cb's a 30 odd year old who isn't first choice? 3 aging centre mids? it's a friendly, play some youth.

not that we can speak. lucas neill still a pivotal part of our defence, even when he lost all footballing ability in around 2006.
 
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Vincent Kompany: Since Aug 2009, Man City have conceded an average of 0.83 goals per PL game with Kompany starting, compared to 1.24 without

:jose

wouldnt mind seeing points compared to him playing/not playing. doubt it would be as good as the yaya one (average more when he's not playing than when he is)
 
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I don't really think you should just throw in youth players because it's a friendly. Friendlies should be used to build on team chemistry.

What I think was after the Euros a team with an average age of 26-27 should have been designed and they should have sticked to it, whilst adding one or two (to the squad, not necessarily starting line up) who would be in good form every time a friendly comes up. It's whay the Germans did after their Euro 08 defeat. They blew up the team and brought the likes of Ozil, Khedira nand Boateng in. Meuller was in form, so they allowed him in the line up as a wild card if you like.

The top nations keep the same teams. They have kept the same team (the right team) for a while now and they play well because the chemistry is there. Germany slowly eases new players like Reus into the starting line up rather than just chucking him in. There's a process to be followed.
 
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I'd normally agree but our current crop isn't producing anything and we've got a potentially strong group of players coming through who should be gaining experience over the likes of Lampard playing a few extra international games. Start building a team for 2016 and we might do well there. World Cup is a lost cause no matter what direction they go in so they may as well use it as a valuable learning curve for the new group of players breaking through. Just being in the squad for training is good experience. England never seem to have a long term goal or direction it seems.
 
#8,283 ·
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you can keep the current crop. just remove a couple of the older players

lescott, jagielka, osman, defoe.

jones, shawcross, lallana, wickham?

still have the limes of gerrard, lampard, cole, rooney, carrick who are all experienced enough just remove a bit of the deadweight and aim for the future.
 
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Yeah I don't mean a total restart. Gradual transition of course. Guys like Osman getting calls up this late is what I'm getting at. I really like Osman but why is he taking the spot of a young player who will need and actually use the experience in the coming years. Same for Lescott. Give someone like Jones the experience over him. Would be nice to see someone other than Hart in goals for just the one match too.

Edit: I'm talking more longer term Rush. 3 games after being non existent for a year shouldn't warrant a call up. 3 goals but from what I've seen he's still been incredibly wasteful. Probably nitpicking at Sturridge because there isn't an abundance of alternatives up front but you should need to do more to get a call up than that.
 
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