Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
Funny how Carrick and Barry are often United and City's most criticised players (usually from those who don't have a clue what they're on about) but yet they've been the best midfielders in both teams this season.
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
carrick has always been good. it's just fun to wind up renegate. barry has been outstanding. held together the midfield, but always gets judged on THAT performance vs germany. probably not up to the pace of champions league, but for the league, he's been one of our best signings. he was the unsung hero of our team last season, yaya got all the praise, but barry was just as important.
carrick has always been good. it's just fun to wind up renegate. barry has been outstanding. held together the midfield, but always gets judged on THAT performance vs germany. probably not up to the pace of champions league, but for the league, he's been one of our best signings. he was the unsung hero of our team last season, yaya got all the praise, but barry was just as important.
Carrick fell out of love with a lot of United fans including myself in 2010 where he was absolutely terrible. He really just capitulated towards the end of that season and a lot of his mistakes cost us, in the league and especially in the Champions League. He was even dropped by Ferguson for the first and pretty much only time in his career.
He's recovered unbelievably well though, and is now back to the player who was superb in 2006/2007 (Dat Roma game :mark, he's won me over again in a huge way. Still think he struggles against teams that press him constantly, Barca for example. He's pretty much our only midfielder who isn't a liability without the ball, his reading of the game is fantastic, probably why he's now limited to a more defensive role. If we had a Sandro/Khedira/Busquets type beside him you'd probably see him get more involved with the ball. As it is, we're too reliant on him to hold, and it's the main reason we're so easy to attack.
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:carrick has been his usual excellent post October self this season but he's showing his more creative side with RVP in the side, they have this understanding, RVP will move into space/make a run and Carrick will pick him out every time.
Credit to FAT GARETH, he had a really good game against Stoke.
Agreed. The days of good defending is slowly fading away, especially in the EPL. Around 5-7 years ago you could name many great defenders, now you can only name a few.
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
There's still some part in me that wants to believe that wenger has still got it in him,but the tactics and gameplans he has laid out especially this season have been nothing short of patheitc.There are so many things that need working on.Just look at yesterday's game,playing walcott as a central striker.His gameplan was to put in crosses from the wings,that's all what we were doing all game with only theo in the box and he's not the one to get on the end of crossed.Then when giroud came on,we were attacking through the middle when infact we should be putting crosses in for him.We had one shot on target the whole game,and literally didn't test the keeper once.Don't think Wenger and steve bould get along too much,and steve bould has a very different game plan,but is only keeping up with wenger since he's the boss.Ivan gazidis is taking the mick out of the Arsenal fans right in front of them.
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
Queens Park Rangers boss Harry Redknapp says only "a real dope" would fail as manager of west London rivals Chelsea.
Ahead of Wednesday's game between the sides he said: "You'd have to be a real dope to mess it up with [the likes of] Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Frank Lampard.
"He [Rafael Benitez] has walked into a squad of players there who are Champions League winners - you've got a chance, haven't you?"
Queens Park Rangers boss Harry Redknapp says only "a real dope" would fail as manager of west London rivals Chelsea.
Ahead of Wednesday's game between the sides he said: "You'd have to be a real dope to mess it up with [the likes of] Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Frank Lampard.
"He [Rafael Benitez] has walked into a squad of players there who are Champions League winners - you've got a chance, haven't you?"
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
there's more dilution of the class players. practically every team has at least 1 good-very good player in their ranks. before the talent only went to about 4 clubs. now you're seeing swansea signing some very good players, the competition is now practically referred to as a top 6, etc etc. the standards across all teams in england have risen because there is more money available to all clubs, and even more coming in with the massive tv deals. the premier league just has a collection of very good through to world class players, and those players are more spread out.
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
what Kiz said and also I think compared to 5 years ago more Prem teams are playing either a more Attacking and Open game or the "Spanish" way of playing in which a defender often misplaces a pass straight to an opposition attacker and they go on to to score
Yes your dreaming :fergie. I have no doubts he may want to return but I REALLY doubt United would want afford him. Unless he loves Man U enough to take a really big wage cut.
Re: 2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - Where attempted murder happens
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#NUFC have given Demba Ba permission to speak to Chelsea. As a result he won't be included in tonight's squad. More on http://nufc.co.uk
:Cisse
First home game of the season that I'm missing tonight. Gutted. But finally Cisse gets to play in the middle. Please just bring an end to the whole situation.
Newcastle United FC @NUFCOfficial
#NUFC have given Demba Ba permission to speak to Chelsea. As a result he won't be included in tonight's squad. More on http://nufc.co.uk
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Forward play is improving, and somewhat contributing to the decline of defending, but having said that, Man United had a better front 4 a few years back than they do now, and a far better defence, defenders are getting worse. Testament to Fergie having got a team with such a poor defence 7 points clear at Christmas.
yeah but fucking Rafa fucked me over this week. dropping Mata, Hazard and Cole to the bench. What a cunt. Not to mention Tevez getting a junk 15 mins instead of missing altogether and i'm slowly starting my fall back down the fantasy rungs :jose
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Ba to Chelsea seemed the obvious bet. He has a big entourage to take care of and when you add in the big wages, and City and United¿s strikeforce it was always going to be the West Londoners. Strange when they have Lukaku maturing nicely but the Belgian probably needs at least another season or two of developing before being ready and unlike Arsenal, Chelsea can afford not to throw their prospects into the deep end straightaway. It does beg the question, Ba is an out and out CF, so is Torres, neither will play on the wing and will they be happy rotating? Is it the beginning of the end for the Spaniard who struggled to compete against an aging Drogba let alone a player in his prime? Just when there were genuine signs of revival instead of the forced ones from pundits after a random good display. Penny for Chelsea fan¿s thoughts?
Made such an school boy error yesterday not capping RvP. Would be sitting on 69 points for the gameweek with Mata and Cole to play tonight. Left Rafael on the bench instead of Gibbs and Rafael goes and gets a cleansheet :downing :downing
Capped Mata, so I hope he rapes QPR with a hattrick and two assists to make me feel better. C'mon JUAN :mata
Ba to Chelsea seemed the obvious bet. He has a big entourage to take care of and when you add in the big wages, and City and United¿s strikeforce it was always going to be the West Londoners. Strange when they have Lukaku maturing nicely but the Belgian probably needs at least another season or two of developing before being ready and unlike Arsenal, Chelsea can afford not to throw their prospects into the deep end straightaway. It does beg the question, Ba is an out and out CF, so is Torres, neither will play on the wing and will they be happy rotating? Is it the beginning of the end for the Spaniard who struggled to compete against an aging Drogba let alone a player in his prime? Just when there were genuine signs of revival instead of the forced ones from pundits after a random good display. Penny for Chelsea fan¿s thoughts?
Ba coming in is good. Seems we'll be paying more than £7m because of his entourage. As long as it's not more than £15m, I'll be happy.
Obviously in the summer we must get a top name, with hopefully #9 going out. We know who I want, so there is no point going on about it. But Ba for now will be good (hopefully).
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so wenger has admitted that the squad is short.i cannot believe that he didn't think that before the season started.although i'm desperate for afc to sign another 2 forward players,but my no1 target has to be fellani. if it means we have to spend 25m then so be it.it's no coincidence to me that our midfield had way more power to it's engine when diaby was in the team earlier this season.because we can't rely on him week in week out wenger must go and get a fellani who can sit in that midfield and drive the game forward for us.i feel for the likes of cazorla,podolski because i think the demands of the prem lge has been too much for them.i mean,2 to 3 games a week with no reasonable cover to give them a break as caught up with them and for their first season they have done well.the pace of our game in the final third is the worsat i've seen from a wenger side this season.the likes of vieira,petit,even flamini with their powerful displays made it easier for our more forward productive players to get on with it. the only player i thought give their all last night was wilshere himself. he needs that powerful figure alongside him so arsenal can drive their football philosophy with speed and purpose.it's now time to act mr wenger.
But Wenger also said that this squad was one of the best squads he ever had. He needs to make up his mindfpalm Perhaps, the poor results have led him to re-evaluate that statement.
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