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**Chillez** · 03-02-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Champ

stop toking on the weed, chillez. chris paul still plays basketball.

haha I'm fine with CP3 being 2nd too. He has had MVP type season.

**Champ** · 03-02-2013, 09:35 AM

I'd also make a case for harden and russ tbh. not taking anything away from bryant though, he's having a heck of a season.

**Red Viper** · 03-02-2013, 09:37 AM

^^^harden is not better than Kobe. fuck outta here champ.

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Originally Posted by Chillez

Westbrook been playing better than Durant has been lately. I sure would hope so having higher FG%, Durant is SF so that is to be expected. He is in danger of losing scoring title to Kobe down the stretch of the season. That was with Kobe being the facilitator last month while not looking to shoot or score.

Westbrook is an elite player himself, so that really isn't surprising. Him playing well doesn't mean Durant has been playing badly.

Just because you play SF doesn't mean you'll have a higher FG% percentage. What kind of retarded logic is that? There are a lot of SFs that don't shoot high field goal percentages. Durant is just a lethal shooter from anywhere on the court, Kobe is the same way but he does better on one on ones and getting the other player out of position while Durant is just a straight up jump shooter that doesn't miss very often.

Kobe is averaging 5.4 assists and Durant is averaging 4.6. It's not really that huge of a discrepancy.

**Chillez** · 03-02-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Champ

you could make the case for harden and russ being better as well.

Kobe averaging higher FG% than both with better overall numbers points, assist, and rebounds. Check that Harden has better average of assist than Kobe but that's about it.

**Chillez** · 03-02-2013, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Showtime

^^^harden is not better than Kobe. fuck outta here champ.

Westbrook is an elite player himself, so that really isn't surprising. Him playing well doesn't mean Durant has been playing badly.

Just because you play SF doesn't mean you'll have a higher FG% percentage. What kind of retarded logic is that? There are a lot of SFs that don't shoot high field goal percentages. Durant is just a lethal shooter from anywhere on the court, Kobe is the same way but he does better on one on ones and getting the other player out of position while Durant is just a straight up jump shooter that doesn't miss very often.

Kobe is averaging 5.4 assists and Durant is averaging 4.6. It's not really that huge of a discrepancy.

Durant played great this year don't get me wrong. But he's still terrible on the ball defender. Overall little below average on defense. To you're earlier point I mainly say that because SF plays closer to basket inside out than SG who more outside around 3 point line. I just feel Kobe better all around player than Durant is. In my view Durant fallen off last couple of weeks.

**Red Viper** · 03-02-2013, 09:46 AM

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I mainly say that because SF plays closer to basket inside out than SG who more outside around 3 point line. I just feel Kobe better all around player than Durant is. In my view Durant fallen off last couple of weeks.

But the opposite is true for Durant and Kobe. Durant is a known jump shooter while Kobe prefers going into the post and working players out of position. Durant is also the better 3 point shooter so yeah. Kobe's defense has fallen enough for this not to be true. I don't think he's actually lost the ability to play elite defense as he has done so a couple of times this season, but he no longer has the stamina to do while playing great on offense. And Durant having a bad couple of weeks doesn't make him worse than Kobe as he's had the better season thus far.

**Chillez** · 03-02-2013, 09:53 AM

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But the opposite is true for Durant and Kobe. Durant is a known jump shooter while Kobe prefers going into the post and working players out of position. Durant is also the better 3 point shooter so yeah. Kobe's defense has fallen enough for this not to be true. I don't think he's actually lost the ability to play elite defense as he has done so a couple of times this season, but he no longer has the stamina to do while playing great on offense. And Durant having a bad couple of weeks doesn't make him worse than Kobe as he's had the better season thus far.

Durant better 3 point shooter this year I'll give you that. Kobe been terrible with 3 point shot this season it's been way off. Kobe had better start to season compared to Durant. Kobe FG% was around 48% close 49% than Lakers started losing games so he become PG of the team getting teammates more involved he had back to back 14 assist games with Nash out 20 games. Kobe had to change his entire mindset and game for them starting winning again. It's been crazy season so far but this is best I've seen Kobe play since 2008-2010.

**Red Viper** · 03-02-2013, 09:58 AM

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Durant better 3 shooting this year I'll give you that. Kobe been terrible with 3 point shot this season it's been way off. Kobe had better start to season compared to Durant. Kobe FG% was around 48% close 49% than Lakers started losing games so he become PG of the team getting teammates mover involved he had back to back 14 assist games with Nash out 20 games.

Durant is the better 3 point shooter. end of discussion. Kobe could be great if he got open 3s and waht not, but Durant is just straight up better. And btw Kobe is around his career average for 3 point shooting, so it really isn't that much of an off year, he just had an off stretch, but it still around where it usually is.

Durant's FG% right now is .512% and he started off even better than that. Kobe's great start still wasn't as good as Durant's start nor is it as good as Durant has done so far throughout the season. Kobe's legs give out as the season progresses which usually results in his FG% going down, this has happened like the last 3 or 4 years but it happens every time. He's too old to keep up that type of play.

Nash was playing when Kobe had back to back 14 assist games. You can keep telling me all these stats but they really don't matter, I've watched the majority of the games this year and I know how good Kobe is, he's still not better than Durant. He's 34 and Durant is 24 so it's kind of to be expected that he can't compete with a guy so much younger than him. Let it go.

**Champ** · 03-02-2013, 10:04 AM

has a slightly higher PER and is just as clutch, magic

**Chillez** · 03-02-2013, 10:07 AM

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Durant is the better 3 point shooter. end of discussion. Kobe could be great if he got open 3s and waht not, but Durant is just straight up better. And btw Kobe is around his career average for 3 point shooting, so it really isn't that much of an off year, he just had an off stretch, but it still around where it usually is.

Durant's FG% right now is .512% and he started off even better than that. Kobe's great start still wasn't as good as Durant's start nor is it as good as Durant has done so far throughout the season. Kobe's legs give out as the season progresses which usually results in his FG% going down, this has happened like the last 3 or 4 years but it happens every time. He's too old to keep up that type of play.

Nash was playing when Kobe had back to back 14 assist games. You can keep telling me all these stats but they really don't matter, I've watched the majority of the games this year and I know how good Kobe is, he's still not better than Durant. He's 34 and Durant is 24 so it's kind of to be expected that he can't compete with a guy so much younger than him. Let it go.

That's where numbers don't tell entire story. Kobe has had multiple better weeks of play than Durant has. Kobe was just named western conference player of the month. I've watched close to every Lakers game this season and his 3 point shooting had been really bad this year compared seasons past. Also, I never said Kobe was better 3 shooter than Durant was. Get that straight. I just find Durant to be little overrated. Durant has munch better team around him too. Don't give me 3 HOF players KB has while today's Nash basically spot up shooter (39) years old and Howard hasn't been same player since the back surgery. On top of it all Gasol being out 6 weeks.