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Old 02-21-2013, 08:49 PM   #6131 (permalink)
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btw I disagree with JM as well in the tanking bit. they won't be able to tank with the current group they have. this nothing more than a Crawford dump and that's still fine.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:51 PM   #6132 (permalink)
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I said they should be tanking, not that they will. They aren't there yet. They need a forward.
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Has there been any update on Rose. When is The Return going to happen or did he decide to take the year off and continue rehabbing.
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Yeah I think it's ridiculous to say that you need to shoot a bunch of FT's every game to be considered efficient. Crawford ranks 115th in FTA's per game out of over 400 NBA players and shoots the league average in true shooting percentage. Please quit acting like the guy is on Austin Rivers or Brandon Jennings level efficiency. And looking at raw FGA per game numbers isn't really a good way to determine who's efficient and who isn't.

But whatever it really isn't that big of a deal. This is a low risk, high reward deal for the Celtics. They can only benefit from this trade. This is a guy that wouldn't even be in their rotation if the team was healthy and even with him in the rotation for the rest of the season, he won't be playing significant minutes. He won't get the same amount of touches as he did in Washington and won't be given the green-light to take as many shots as he wants like he did in Washington. This is a completely different environment for him.
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I don't really care of the scenario this creates for the Celtics. This all stemmed for me from you saying the Wizards were one of the BIG LOSERS for deadline day, and I disagree.
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I said they should be tanking, not that they will. They aren't there yet. They need a forward.
You're wrong. It's not as black and white when making a team that you can say "NEED A TRUE CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDER AND IF NOT TANK" because you always have to keep in mind the state of the franchise, fan support, tickets, etc that has to do with revenue. They're been tanking for awhile like one of their fans said in the thread and you reach a point where fans simply stop caring. At this point they need to make the playoffs and do whatever possible in order to do that. If they're bad for another year or two they might do serious damage to their fan support that could potentially take awhile to repair. Tanking next year would absolutely be a terrible move for them and they know that, which is why they made some questionable trades in order to get the likes of Nene, Okafor, and Ariza. None of them are young and their contracts are all pretty terrible, but the Wizards know they have to make a team that can reach the playoffs, otherwise fans will simply stop caring altogether.
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I don't even care to read that. They would benefit long term from tanking one more year. Disagree? GOOD FOR YOU UDFK!
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^faggot. And they're probably going to get SHABAZZ this year or some other forward so why exactly do they have to tank next year?


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Yeah I think it's ridiculous to say that you need to shoot a bunch of FT's every game to be considered efficient. Crawford ranks 115th in FTA's per game out of over 400 NBA players and shoots the league average in true shooting percentage. Please quit acting like the guy is on Austin Rivers or Brandon Jennings level efficiency. And looking at raw FGA per game numbers isn't really a good way to determine who's efficient and who isn't.

But whatever it really isn't that big of a deal. This is a low risk, high reward deal for the Celtics. They can only benefit from this trade. This is a guy that wouldn't even be in their rotation if the team was healthy and even with him in the rotation for the rest of the season, he won't be playing significant minutes. He won't get the same amount of touches as he did in Washington and won't be given the green-light to take as many shots as he wants like he did in Washington. This is a completely different environment for him.
If you don't get free throws you're NOT being efficient. What don't you get about that? If a player averages zero free throws a game but shoots .495 percent(without hitting threes let's say) then that player would still be inefficient because the player is scoring less than a point per possession. Would you not agree with that? Free throws is what makes great scorers great because getting to the line is an easy way to get points.
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I don't really care of the scenario this creates for the Celtics. This all stemmed for me from you saying the Wizards were one of the BIG LOSERS for deadline day, and I disagree.
I feel that they are.

They traded their best bench player for an injured player that won't ever play a game for them and one of the worst players in the NBA. You can bring up cap space all you want but what do they save in this scenario? 1 million? 2 million? This is the Washington Wizards we're talking about. They're not attracting any good free agent. Congratulations. You've saved $2 million that you can pay Austin Daye or Sundiata Gaines, the only players that would be willing to play for the Wizards.

@Showtime: You don't need to shoot a bunch of FT's every game to be considered efficient. That's stupid. Crawford averages 2-3 FTA's per game, that's pretty normal for an NBA player that's in a rotation. Especially one that's coming off the bench. You don't need to average 5 FTA's per game to be a good scorer or to be considered efficient.
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I don't really know how you can say they will probably get Shabazz.
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