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**Notorious** · 02-14-2013, 09:27 PM

The thing that's making LeBron's season so amazing is that the guy is coasting and still head and shoulders above everyone else.

**SoupBro** · 02-14-2013, 09:34 PM

Watching the game and Miller saying if Lebron consistently makes them 3's he may be looking over his shoulders. He has really imprived as a 3 point shooter. Maybe those friendly competitions with Allen has made him better.

I always thought if you just compare them as individuals then its easily Lebron over Kobe. Doesnt he average more points,rebounds and assists career wise. Its just the ring argument which is a team achievement.

**Red Viper** · 02-14-2013, 09:43 PM

Surpassing Kobe means he's top 10 which is about the most laughable thing I've heard. So yeah notorious, lol @ you.

also

@ finals MVP argument. Since when is that an argument? Kobe had Shaq on his team oh played like an absolute monster in those years, it's not Kobe was playing horrendously bad like Lebron did in his first two finals.

**Notorious** · 02-14-2013, 09:45 PM

I fail to see how LeBron with another MVP, another title and another Finals MVP being in the top 10 is laughable.

**WWF** · 02-14-2013, 09:45 PM

D-God or D-Devil? Jesus Christ, you all are uncreative with Rose nicknames...

**Red Viper** · 02-14-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

I fail to see how LeBron with another MVP, another title and another Finals MVP being in the top 10 is laughable.

so how exactly does two good years make him surpass Kobe? Should I forget all the previous playoff failures just because he might win two rings? Should we should his whole legacy on these past two years and forget those two previous finals where he was essentially shut down? I should also forget him quitting on the Cavs in the playoffs his last year there or are you going to try to tell me he was all in against the Celtics that year?

**SoupBro** · 02-14-2013, 09:59 PM

Didnt he get a triple dbl that game he supposedly quit?

Stall_19 · 02-14-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime

so how exactly does two good years make him surpass Kobe? Should I forget all the previous playoff failures just because he might win two rings? Should we should his whole legacy on these past two years and forget those two previous finals where he was essentially shut down? I should also forget him quitting on the Cavs in the playoffs his last year there or are you going to try to tell me he was all in against the Celtics that year?

His best teammate in Cleveland was Mo Williams, I seriously doubt Kobe does any better with those teams than Lebron did.

**Notorious** · 02-14-2013, 10:01 PM

The fact that LeBron even got that Cavs team to the Finals is an accomplishment in itself. How many NBA players have/could've led a team with a starting lineup on the caliber of Daniel Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden and Zydrunas Ilgauskas to the Finals?

Let's not act like Kobe hasn't come up short in the playoffs before. Let's not act Kobe hasn't played bad in the Finals before.

**Red Viper** · 02-14-2013, 10:23 PM

the only good East team that year was the Pistons. Let's not act like it was a huge accomplishment for him to do so either, he carried them against the Pistons but that was the only team they really had to face that would give them any trouble. the Spurs showed they were nowhere close to championship material when they faced them and destroyed them.

And I'm not saying Kobe would have done better with them.