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JM · 01-30-2013, 08:21 PM

Melo made every player on the Knicks worse soon as he got there. All their numbers went down. I don't look too much into it.

It is to be determined. That's it.

I have no idea what will happen in the future and neither do you. Typical stupid hypothetical NBA thread argument.

Xile44 · 01-30-2013, 08:22 PM

Fuck this shit, every excuse when the heat play bad is their not playing with the same focus as last year.

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**Notorious** · 01-30-2013, 08:22 PM

Do you think the Celtics giving Jeff Green a $40 million contract was a good signing as well? I don't see what's so stupid about believing Landry Fields isn't worth his contract. Only reason why you're defending it is because you're a Raptors fan.

@Xile: Pretty sure every time the Heat struggle it's only because "they're playing down to their competition."

Xile44 · 01-30-2013, 08:24 PM

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@Xile: Pretty sure every time the Heat struggle it's only because "they're playing down to their competition."

That's where I'm getting at

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**Red Viper** · 01-30-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JM

Melo made every player on the Knicks worse soon as he got there. All their numbers went down. I don't look too much into it.

It is to be determined. That's it.

I have no idea what will happen in the future and neither do you. Typical stupid hypothetical NBA thread argument.

actually no, you're making this hypothetical by saying he may eventually live up to the contract. At the moment he is not living up to his contract, even with his recent success, and has shown no signs of coming close. he had a couple of good games but even that doesn't justify his contract. And hell, the contract wasn't even awarded to him due to his ability to play, Raptors know they overpaid him but did it so they couldn't trade him for Nash so I don't see why you're trying to say he'll live up to the contract when I highly doubt the Raptors' front office even thought he would live up to it.

we don't know what's going to happen in the future, if he will manage to regain his shooting form of old after he's fully recovered or not, but we do know that right now he isn't worth that contract. just admit it.

#Mark · 01-30-2013, 08:25 PM

This trade makes little sense for both Toronto and Memphis imo. Parting with Ed Davis makes little sense for Toronto.. He has great potential to be a serviceable big man. With more development he could be a 20 and 10 player. Adding Gay doesn't change much for them.. They're ceiling now is a 5-8th seed next season. Doesn't drastically change their position at all.

As for Memphis, they add another big. Gasol, Davis, Arthur and ZBo? I don't see how they're gonna properly allocate their minutes. Would have made more sense if they traded Gay for a wing player.

JM · 01-30-2013, 08:25 PM

That signing was made for after Paul Pierce is gone. Shockingly enough, that one is tbd as well...

**Notorious** · 01-30-2013, 08:27 PM

Steamer out there trying to fight every Clipper

JM · 01-30-2013, 08:28 PM

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This trade makes little sense for both Toronto and Memphis imo. Parting with Ed Davis makes little sense for Toronto.. He has great potential to be a serviceable big man. With more development he could be a 20 and 10 player. Adding Gay doesn't change much for them.. They're ceiling now is a 5-8th seed next season. Doesn't drastically change their position at all.

As for Memphis, they add another big. Gasol, Davis, Arthur and ZBo? I don't see how they're gonna properly allocate their minutes. Would have made more sense if they traded Gay for a wing player.

That's why they flipped Calderon for 2 wings...

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actually no, you're making this hypothetical by saying he may eventually live up to the contract. At the moment he is not living up to his contract, even with his recent success, and has shown no signs of coming close. he had a couple of good games but even that doesn't justify his contract. And hell, the contract wasn't even awarded to him due to his ability to play, Raptors know they overpaid him but did it so they couldn't trade him for Nash so I don't see why you're trying to say he'll live up to the contract when I highly doubt the Raptors' front office even thought he would live up to it.

we don't know what's going to happen in the future, if he will manage to regain his shooting form of old after he's fully recovered or not, but we do know that right now he isn't worth that contract. just admit it.

I'm speaking in 0 hypotheticals actually. Which is why I'm saying it's to be determined. Right now, no. I've never said otherwise. Again, this is pointless and silly. You guys know more than anyone else could though, clearly.

**Red Viper** · 01-30-2013, 08:32 PM

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That's why they flipped Calderon for 2 wings...

I'm speaking in 0 hypotheticals actually. Which is why I'm saying it's to be determined. Right now, no. I've never said otherwise. Again, this is pointless and silly. You guys know more than anyone else could though, clearly.

But people don't wait for things to be determined, you know this. We judge on the NOW and what we see NOW, and what we see now is Fields not living up to his contract.

I'm rooting for the Raptors though, I enjoy them and their fans aren't really all that bad(except you, you're awful) and deserve some success. Although these recent transactions make it all but a pipedream of them getting WIGGINS next year...