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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

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post #4362 of 8644 (permalink) Old 01-22-2013, 06:32 PM
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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

And one thing to point out, Paxon said he wont allow Rose to play until he participates in practice in back-to-backs, on consecutive weeks, which if you recall, Rose hasn't even practiced in a full practice with no limitations yet. So at the very least, if he's clear this week, we're looking at 10-14 days at the minimum.


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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

Despite his efficiency this year (discounting the last 3 games), I'd agree with you at least on the offensive end. When the ball gets swung to Kobe, it stops. Nobody else will touch the ball for the remainder of the possession. As for on the defensive end, I've noticed a handful of times when he has missed a rotation when playing off the ball.





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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

LOLOLOL at Kobe's tweets during the 81 point game
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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

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Notorious: am I right in saying that Kobe is a detriment to the team with the way he has played this year? Slows the offense down with one-on-one isolation, doesn't look to pass. On defense, people give him credit like he is still a great defender. Kobe is average at this stage. Terrible off the ball defender -- he has lapses all the time. Much better on the ball, but really just average defensively. I'd say the 4th best defender in the starting lineup (Dwight, Metta, Earl the pearl, then Kobe).

Thoughts on this? UDK, Dub, and scrilla wanted to crucify me a week or two ago when I posted this in the chatbox. Am I off base and inaccurate?
The Lakers are a mess from top to bottom, Kobe included.

People want to say Kobe is carrying the team. But numbers show that when Kobe shoots more, the team is worse. How is it that when your star player shoots more, your team plays worse?

Kobe is part of the problem too. He has his issues on offense and he gives a half-ass effort on defense.

At the rate they're going they need to blow the team up, but that's unlikely.

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And one thing to point out, Paxon said he wont allow Rose to play until he participates in practice in back-to-backs, on consecutive weeks, which if you recall, Rose hasn't even practiced in a full practice with no limitations yet. So at the very least, if he's clear this week, we're looking at 10-14 days at the minimum.
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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

Kobe's O has some issues like getting others involved and not being decisive enough but they're minor compared to everything else. He's been pretty off in the past 3-4 games I think but despite that, the Lakers are the 8th best offense in the league right now (and they were 6th a few days ago before Kobe's cold streak) so we know that Lakers' O isn't the problem and Kobe's play isn't the root of the cause. There are other issues with their O too like Dwight not getting involved enough to get in rhythm, turning the ball over, getting stripped in the post, not establishing himself and Gasol has a limited role now. But, like I said, 8th best offense in the league so their O is fine as it is.

Their biggest issue is by far their defense (ranked 20th) and Kobe is part of that but IDK if the majority of the blame goes to him. Their overall team defense + effort is just lackluster. Dwight hasn't been his former self this season + has regressed athletically, Nash gonna Nash which makes for awful pick and roll defense, transition defense is bad and their coach doesn't do much to help the cause.

EDIT: I think that Kobe stat where their record is better when he scores less than 30 is deceptive when you consider their offense has been fine.
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Re: Annnnnndddddd Houston is plummeting! #Linsanity

Their defense won't improve either. Not as long as D'Antoni is coach.

It's funny. Laker fans did all that whining about Mike Brown and they hired a coach that's just as incompetent, if not more.

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Notorious: am I right in saying that Kobe is a detriment to the team with the way he has played this year? Slows the offense down with one-on-one isolation, doesn't look to pass. On defense, people give him credit like he is still a great defender. Kobe is average at this stage. Terrible off the ball defender -- he has lapses all the time. Much better on the ball, but really just average defensively. I'd say the 4th best defender in the starting lineup (Dwight, Metta, Earl the pearl, then Kobe).

Thoughts on this? UDK, Dub, and scrilla wanted to crucify me a week or two ago when I posted this in the chatbox. Am I off base and inaccurate?
lolol @ asking notorious, the guy biased against the lakers due to his celtic fandom.

not that his answer was biased or untrue, I just find this hilarious.

Fast offense isn't good for the team and Pringles system has already shown that, so slowing down the offense isn't exactly a bad thing, especially if he's hitting on those one on one isolations(which he was doing for most of the season before this coldstreak).

He was also our main playmaker while Nash was out and was actively seeking to get others involved early on in the game(I do admit it would become worse as the game went on, especially if others were struggling, but he rarely completely took over) and was doing a rather good job of it. Players converting was a problem since everyone had quite a low percentage on those wide open jumpers as a lot of team aren't exactly jump shooters(or are just struggling a lot like Meeks and Jaminson).

On defense he has been lacking off the ball, but he is still one of the best one on one defenders in the league. If he's trying to lock you down he will lock you down, he has shown this in a lot of recent games. Off the ball he does struggle a lot and does have a lot of laspes for his own guy as he's usually trying too hard to gain a steal, which ends up leading to his guy just running in for an easy hoop.


I'm curious Flex, how many games of the Lakers have you actually seen this year? Three? Five tops? I highly doubt you've seen enough games to actually have a good opinion on my team when you haven't even seen enough games of your own team to have opinion on them.

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