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**Magic** · 01-04-2013, 03:55 PM

^^^somewhere on the top SEVEN for me.

Kobe is 34.

**Notorious** · 01-04-2013, 04:04 PM

MJ
Magic
Kareem
Russell
Wilt
Hakeem
Bird
Duncan
Oscar
Shaq
Kobe

**Magic** · 01-04-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

MJ
Magic
Kareem
Hakeem
Wilt
Russell
Bird
Magic
Duncan
Oscar
Shaq/Kobe

Magic so good he's listed twice?

also I'd put him right behind russell on your list.

Mine would be something like

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Magic(although I still find him the most TALENTED player of all time)
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Hakeem
7. Kobe
8. Oscar
9. Duncan

**Tyler Durden** · 01-04-2013, 04:10 PM

MJ
Magic
Russell
Wilt
Kareem
Kobe
Hakeem
Duncan
Oscar

**Notorious** · 01-04-2013, 04:11 PM

Oscar Robertson had career averages of 27.6 PPG, 9.5 APG and 7.5 RPG...as a PG. All-time leader in triple doubles by a large margin that probably won't be matched in the near future.

So underrated when it comes to these top ten lists. Guy was still playing at a high level in his 40's.

**Magic** · 01-04-2013, 04:15 PM

I know OSCAR was great. The big O is the only player to average a triple double, but tbh we can only judge these guys so well off the limited stuff we've seen of them(well I haven't see all that much) and it's hard to gauge how meaningful their stats are in a completely different era when they were basically athletically and physically superior in a way that Lebron would be to high school kids. Although their stats and Russell's championships are too great to just ignore.

**Notorious** · 01-04-2013, 04:32 PM

From what I've seen from Oscar and from what I've heard from people who watched him during his day, He had it all. He could literally do everything good.

He would've been great no matter what era he played in. Same with guys like Wilt & Russell. They would've dominated no matter what era they were in. Is it likely Wilt could've averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds in another era, not really, but I could realistically see prime Wilt putting around 30/15 in the 90's or later.

**Magic** · 01-04-2013, 04:50 PM

Oh I know, I know they're all great. I'm just saying it's hard to say where they rank all time without actually getting to watch them on a regular basis or see enough footage of them like you can do with Kareem/Magic/Bird/etc.

Oscar was basically his era's Lebron. an all around talent that was unstoppable and couldn't get DAT ring. maybe he should have joined the Lakers.

**Notorious** · 01-04-2013, 04:55 PM

Oscar was playing with scrubs for the majority of his career. The Bucks didn't draft Kareem until Oscar was almost 40 and on the decline, they won one ring together but after that Oscar got older and declined. And then the year after Oscar retired, Kareem forced his way to LA. A couple years later Magic gets drafted, then Worthy. Guess everything also works out for the Lakers

**Magic** · 01-04-2013, 05:03 PM

32 years old is almost 40.