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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Are the Warriors for real?

Yep, doesn't look like I'll get to forgive the Clippers this year.

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Love is overrated. It's not like his numbers are low at his fault, he's playing behind Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson. Once Millsap is traded, he'll start and be putting up great numbers. He's already a much better defender than Love is, though that's not saying much.
Kevin Love is going to get even better in a few years as well. he's a PF that can shoot, rebound, pass, etc the only thing he needs work on is his defense. the guy breaks his hand during the offseason, comes back early and is getting almost 14 rebounds a game. When I watch Derrick Favors play I sometimes think this guy is not even on the floor. Even when Millsap and possibly Al Jefferson leave I still think Favors is going to be decent but no star. It's going to be Gordon Hayward's team after the big men get traded.

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Jamison is out of the rotation due to the fact the's garbage at defense and has been shooting awful. Putting him at the three is about the worst thing you can do as the can guy is a power forward and already has troubles guarding big man, he can't do shit at the three as people just drive past him with ease.

Favors will be better than Love in a few years. Hell, Favors could be one of the best bigs right now if Jazz weren't so damn slow with trading Millsap, the guy is obviously talented and good defender.
I know his defense is very frustrating to watch. Putting him at the 3 is not the worse thing you can do, were talking about him playing for the 2nd unit. It's not like he is going to guard Lebron James or Durant, he won't get blown by every single possession. The guy is talented even though he's old the guy can still make an impact. If Lakers are not going to use this guy, trade him and try to get a SF/PF that can help this team. It's a waste to let him sit on the bench, I would say go after Ariza.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abzpsf8

Ariza for Duhon, Jamison, Clark, and Ebanks. I would say this is a great deal, Lakers get rid of 3 players that see almost no minutes and Duhon for Ariza. Lakers get a little younger, and in a way better.

Favors is talented, but I think Love will be alot better in a few more years. The guy hasnt even reached his top level and is putting up monster numbers. I dont think Favors is going to be that great, but we will see how things turn out when he gets his minutes. Every nba player is talented but not every player can show it on the floor consistantly.

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Are the Warriors for real?

Gordon Hayward's team? lulz.

Love is just a stat-padder that plays no defense. Btw, Favors per 36 numbers have him putting up over 15 points, almost 11 boards and close to 3 blocks. I'd say those are some pretty great numbers. Will Favors be a star once he starts? I doubt it. Will he be a very good player? Yeah, he will.

As far as Ariza goes...he's regressed significantly since he left the Lakers, he's overpaid and he's injury prone. Don't see why the Lakers should trade for a guy like him.

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I know his defense is very frustrating to watch. Putting him at the 3 is not the worse thing you can do, were talking about him playing for the 2nd unit. It's not like he is going to guard Lebron James or Durant, he won't get blown by every single possession. The guy is talented even though he's old the guy can still make an impact. If Lakers are not going to use this guy, trade him and try to get a SF/PF that can help this team. It's a waste to let him sit on the bench, I would say go after Ariza.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abzpsf8

Ariza for Duhon, Jamison, Clark, and Ebanks. I would say this is a great deal, Lakers get rid of 3 players that see almost no minutes and Duhon for Ariza. Lakers get a little younger, and in a way better.

Favors is talented, but I think Love will be alot better in a few more years. The guy hasnt even reached his top level and is putting up monster numbers. I dont think Favors is going to be that great, but we will see how things turn out when he gets his minutes. Every nba player is talented but not every player can show it on the floor consistantly.
I've watched nearly every Lakers game this year and I watched Jamison at the three. It is the worst thing you can do. He can't guard anyone and he lets people blow past him or just score with relatively ease. He provides bad help defense and he isn't the shooter he once once or even the shooter he was last year.

Wizards would never do that deal as they already have a loaded roster(with no roster spots for those four guys you just put in that deaL) and their front court is already filled with good young players. It's not happening bro.

Favors is 21 and his per 36 minutes are 15/10 with 2.5 blocks. That's without even being the option or second option for that when he's on the court. The kid can has post moves as well as the fact he plays great defense. Favors will be better than Love as already has what Love doesn't, which is great defense, which is harder for a player to improve at than something on offense as it takes more commitment, a commitment that Love hasn't shown on that end of the floor.

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Gordon Hayward's team? lulz.

Love is just a stat-padder that plays no defense. Btw, Favors per 36 numbers have him putting up over 15 points, almost 11 boards and close to 3 blocks. I'd say those are some pretty great numbers. Will Favors be a star once he starts? I doubt it. Will he be a very good player? Yeah, he will.

As far as Ariza goes...he's regressed significantly since he left the Lakers, he's overpaid and he's injury prone. Don't see why the Lakers should trade for a guy like him.

Hayward can play, after they leave who else is left? lol. Its going to be Hayward and Favors. Unless they get something good in return for trading the bigs.

Favors can be a star, but he needs to get consistant minutes. I think favors is going to be a decent player, maybe make 1 all star team but nothing more.

I see it as a low risk/high reward case for the lakers. if they give up those players for Ariza I would say that its a trade worth making. I would take a risk on Ariza than let Jamison, Clark, and Ebanks rot on the bench providing nothing. Also getting rid of Duhon would be a good thing, I dont like the fact he jacks up 3 pointers, 5 feet above the 3 point line with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. It's so frustrating watching him do that. Lakers have nothing to lose doing this trade.

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Hayward can play, after they leave who else is left? lol. Its going to be Hayward and Favors. Unless they get something good in return for trading the bigs.

Favors can be a star, but he needs to get consistant minutes. I think favors is going to be a decent player, maybe make 1 all star team but nothing more.

I see it as a low risk/high reward case for the lakers. if they give up those players for Ariza I would say that its a trade worth making. I would take a risk on Ariza than let Jamison, Clark, and Ebanks rot on the bench providing nothing. Also getting rid of Duhon would be a good thing, I dont like the fact he jacks up 3 pointers, 5 feet above the 3 point line with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. It's so frustrating watching him do that. Lakers have nothing to lose doing this trade.
They have Kanter too. I think you forget Favors was the main part of the Deron Williams trade. This guy is legit and he will be a star. It's not even an if in my mind, he has the talent, he plays well on defense, and does what all big man are supposed to do. It's just the minutes and always has been. Did you see what he did against the Spurs, specifically Tim Duncan, last year in the playoffs? He didn't shoot that great, but his all around numbers were impressive considering he was matched up with the best PF of all time.

I never said it's a bad trade. It's a great trade...for the Lakers. Wizards have Nene, Okafor, Booker, Seraphin, and Singleton already in their backcourt. They don't need Jamison whatsoever and wouldn't be used there either.

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Are the Warriors for real?

But why would the Wizards accept that? They have no reason to.

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I've watched nearly every Lakers game this year and I watched Jamison at the three. It is the worst thing you can do. He can't guard anyone and he lets people blow past him or just score with relatively ease. He provides bad help defense and he isn't the shooter he once once or even the shooter he was last year.

Wizards would never do that deal as they already have a loaded roster(with no roster spots for those four guys you just put in that deaL) and their front court is already filled with good young players. It's not happening bro.

Favors is 21 and his per 36 minutes are 15/10 with 2.5 blocks. That's without even being the option or second option for that when he's on the court. The kid can has post moves as well as the fact he plays great defense. Favors will be better than Love as already has what Love doesn't, which is great defense, which is harder for a player to improve at than something on offense as it takes more commitment, a commitment that Love hasn't shown on that end of the floor.
I cant argue with you on that point, this guy cant defend anyone right now. But if he can get his shooting back, he can help his team.

It doesn't even have to be Ariza, Lakers can trade for someone else. It would be a smart idea to trade for someone that can help this team right away, I don't like players like Jamison sitting on the bench doing nothing. If he cant provide help, trade him. The lakers are in win now mode, try to get a wing player that can help in anyway.

Great defense is one thing, but he needs to do more than just defend. Love cant defend but he does everything else and does it well. Love needs to defend but Favors needs to work on his offense.

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They have Kanter too. I think you forget Favors was the main part of the Deron Williams trade. This guy is legit and he will be a star. It's not even an if in my mind, he has the talent, he plays well on defense, and does what all big man are supposed to do. It's just the minutes and always has been. Did you see what he did against the Spurs, specifically Tim Duncan, last year in the playoffs? He didn't shoot that great, but his all around numbers were impressive considering he was matched up with the best PF of all time.

I never said it's a bad trade. It's a great trade...for the Lakers. Wizards have Nene, Okafor, Booker, Seraphin, and Singleton already in their backcourt. They don't need Jamison whatsoever and wouldn't be used there either.
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But why would the Wizards accept that? They have no reason to.
Kanter needs to develope, he won't be the best player on the team anytime soon. Derrick Favors can play but I question how far he can really go up. Derrick Favors has time to grow though, he is barley 21 years old. I have to see how well of an offense game this guy can develope.

It doesnt have to be a trade with the Wizards, all I am saying is its a better idea to get someone that can help this team than let players sit on the bench and do nothing.

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