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Melo? MVP?
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Also, Lillard is going to be a star. That 3 he hit against us with like 35 seconds left still stings, god. STAT looked fine out there, lol at the guy in the thread who said we lost cause of him.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #3202 (permalink)
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STAT will be NY's scapegoat. Sad really.
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Just because LeBron has the physical gifts to play 20 years doesn't mean he will. And it wouldn't make him stupid if he decides to retire beforehand.

I don't see how Bosh can't last as long as LeBron. Bosh has the type of game that doesn't rely on athleticism and it could very well see Bosh playing when he's deep into his 30's like KG and Duncan are, and Dirk & Pau probably will be.


People complaining about the West being stronger than East is laughable. The West has almost always been the deeper conference and had better teams overall. But the East has still won more titles.

You know what I find funny. OKC ran through the so called superior West last year, while Miami struggled to get out of the East and then when Miami finally got to the Finals against OKC, it was the easiest series they played.
Once again, it would be stupid for him to retire just because others are retiring. If he wants to retire at an earlier age it should be his decision and it shouldn't be based on the decisions of others.


The East got 17 titles out of Russell and Jordan, that's the only reason that they've won more. Since Jordan retired the West has won 10 out of 14 titles. Only a moron would try to argue that the East is at all competitive. And just because the Heat won against the Thunder relatively easily doesn't mean they would have gotten past the rest of the Western teams easily. That's an absurd statement. Different matchups would result in different outcomes.
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Once again, it would be stupid for him to retire just because others are retiring. If he wants to retire at an earlier age it should be his decision and it shouldn't be based on the decisions of others.


The East got 17 titles out of Russell and Jordan, that's the only reason that they've won more. Since Jordan retired the West has won 10 out of 14 titles. Only a moron would try to argue that the East is at all competitive. And just because the Heat won against the Thunder relatively easily doesn't mean they would have gotten past the rest of the Western teams easily. That's an absurd statement. Different matchups would result in different outcomes.
Yeah, the East has had the greatest player of all time and the greatest C in NBA history. ujelly? Can't deny the facts, ...... East > West historically.
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East have won the majority of the titles, the East has been the more dominant conference. If the West was so good then you should've stopped Jordan & Russell from winning all those titles, don't ya think?

But let's make it fair, let's take away all the Celtics & Lakers titles. The East still has the advantage, 18-11. Take away Jordan as well. And the East still has more.

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Yeah, the East has had the greatest player of all time and the greatest C in NBA history. ujelly? Can't deny the facts, ...... East > West historically.
Kareem is the greatest center of all time as far as I'm concerned.

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East have won the majority of the titles, the East has been the more dominant conference. If the West was so good then you should've stopped Jordan & Russell from winning all those titles, don't ya think?
Once again you're being a moron by arguing something that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, like yesterday when you were arguing the age of the player when I was arguing the number of years a player played.

What does shit that happened 50 years ago have to do with the current state of the conference? Absolutely nothing? Yeah, that's what I thought. Don't be stupid.
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You're the one that brought up the conference's histories. Not me. So how the fuck am I being off-topic?

I said nothing about Jordan, Russell, Magic, Celtics, Lakers, none of that. You're the one that brought this into conversation, man.
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Too bad Kareem's not.

Did Kareem ever average over 24 REBOUNDS PER GAME? Does Kareem have 11 CHAMPIONSHIPS?












Wait, why the fuck am I making a case for a Celtics player?
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also the very fact that the Heat play in the East pisses me off to no end as they wouldn't even be close to being the favorites every year if they had to go through the West every year. They would hardly be destined for this destiny everyone believes they will have if they were in the West as the competition is honestly so much greater.
talking about the current state of the conferences...

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Just because LeBron has the physical gifts to play 20 years doesn't mean he will. And it wouldn't make him stupid if he decides to retire beforehand.

I don't see how Bosh can't last as long as LeBron. Bosh has the type of game that doesn't rely on athleticism and it could very well see Bosh playing when he's deep into his 30's like KG and Duncan are, and Dirk & Pau probably will be.


People complaining about the West being stronger than East is laughable. The West has almost always been the deeper conference and had better teams overall. But the East has still won more titles.


You know what I find funny. OKC ran through the so called superior West last year, while Miami struggled to get out of the East and then when Miami finally got to the Finals against OKC, it was the easiest series they played.
Brings up the fact that the East has won more titles(and the west wasn't always the deeper conference as I believe in the 60s/70s the Knicks/Philly/Boston were the cream of the crop and much tougher opponents then the teams in the West.

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Once again, it would be stupid for him to retire just because others are retiring. If he wants to retire at an earlier age it should be his decision and it shouldn't be based on the decisions of others.


The East got 17 titles out of Russell and Jordan, that's the only reason that they've won more. Since Jordan retired the West has won 10 out of 14 titles. Only a moron would try to argue that the East is at all competitive. And just because the Heat won against the Thunder relatively easily doesn't mean they would have gotten past the rest of the Western teams easily. That's an absurd statement. Different matchups would result in different outcomes.
I brought up Jordan/Russell as those are the two players that hold most of their titles. Both retired long ago and are no longer relevant at all with the current NBA. I realize you were making a comparsion by saying that the while the West always overall better than the East, the East would always win the title(I don't believe that's true but I digress).

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You're the one that brought up the conference's histories. Not me. So how the fuck am I being off-topic?

I said nothing about Jordan, Russell, Magic, Celtics, Lakers, none of that. You're the one that brought this into conversation, man.
I never brought up the history of the conferences, you did by stating the East has won more titles overall even though in recent history that isn't even close to the truth and recent history is still relevant to this conversation as those teams are still quite good and a lot of players are still here today.
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I brought up a fact. People are always complaining about the West being deeper but throughout the history of the NBA, the West has almost always been the stronger conference OVERALL. The East has pretty much always been a top-heavy conference with a lot of shit teams while the West has been deep.

In the 60's, there were 8 teams in the NBA for the most part and every only three of them were good: Boston, LA, Philly. But other than that, my point still stands. For the most part, the East has been a top-heavy conference while the West has been the deeper conference. Sure there's been some years where the East was superior but for the most part, as far as regular season success goes, the West has historically had more success, while the East has won more titles. Wasn't trying to make an argument about it or anything like that. You're the guy that tried to start an argument about it.

I'm well aware that the West has been better for the last 10-15 years. So what? The East has yet to find a consistent team that can knock Duncan/Kobe off, just like West with Russell and Jordan.
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