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Ether · 12-29-2012, 06:34 PM

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**Notorious** · 12-29-2012, 06:35 PM

Cousins acted an ass at Kentucky and he acted an ass during the Olympic training camp, can people please quit acting like it's only because of the situation in Sacramento. It's his personality, it's him. He couldn't kept his act together around Jerry Colangelo, Coach K and some of the greatest basketball players in the world for a two week span. At Kentucky he was in a winning environment, playing with 7 other future NBA players. For a college team, that is very damn talented.

Maybe he would change if people started holding Cousins accountable for his actions instead of babying him and placing the blame on others. You know, just like Cousins does himself? Cousins shoots 40 percent for the season, a result of playing selfish ball and taking terrible shots "Oh it's his teammates fault, it's only because his teammates suck". Cousins acts an ass and throws a temper tantrum in the MIDDLE of a fucking game, that was so excessive he had to be left in the locker room during halftime and suspended by the team "Oh he's just in a bad environment. If he was on a team with veterans he suddenly wouldn't be an immature, bipolar moron."

You guys are delusional if you think just putting Cousins on a veteran team will change him. It's his personality, it's who he is. He won't change. Especially with how people baby him and never hold him accountable of his actions. Hell, look at him right now. He's acting an ass in Sacramento, throwing tantrums left and right and now has teams running to play Captain Save-A-Hoe under the impression that Cousins will dramatically change his attitude and persona. The only way I see him changing is if he ends up in an Andray Blatche like situation, where his attitude and antics have him on the brink of dropping out of the NBA and he gets one last chance.

**Red Viper** · 12-29-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Cousins acted an ass at Kentucky and he acted an ass during the Olympic training camp, can people please quit acting like it's only because of the situation in Sacramento. It's his personality, it's him. He couldn't kept his act together around Jerry Colangelo, Coach K and some of the greatest basketball players in the world for a two week span. At Kentucky he was in a winning environment, playing with 7 other future NBA players. For a college team, that is very damn talented.

Maybe he would change if people started holding Cousins accountable for his actions instead of babying him and placing the blame on others. You know, just like Cousins does himself? Cousins shoots 40 percent for the season, a result of playing selfish ball and taking terrible shots "Oh it's his teammates fault, it's only because his teammates suck". Cousins acts an ass and throws a temper tantrum in the MIDDLE of a fucking game, that was so excessive he had to be left in the locker room during halftime and suspended by the team "Oh he's just in a bad environment. If he was on a team with veterans he suddenly wouldn't be an immature, bipolar moron."

You guys are delusional if you think just putting Cousins on a veteran team will change him. It's his personality, it's who he is. He won't change. Especially with how people baby him and never hold him accountable of his actions. Hell, look at him right now. He's acting an ass in Sacramento, throwing tantrums left and right and now has teams running to play Captain Save-A-Hoe under the impression that Cousins will dramatically change his attitude and persona. The only way I see him changing is if he ends up in an Andray Blatche like situation, where his attitude and antics have him on the brink of dropping out of the NBA and he gets one last chance.

The olympics weren't really a long term thing. There's a difference between being around a good coach/vets for a whole year and being at a camp type thing for 2 weeks. And tbf, I think he deserved to act like an ass after he outplayed everyone and got no recognition for it.

The second paragraph is exactly why he needs vets and a good coach around him. THEY WOULD HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

Yo Kobe, what was that that Phil Jackson called you? Not coachable? ah yes, the kid with an attitude that listened to no one, had a terrible shot selection, refused to take accountability and just thought he was better than everyone. The kid with a personality that would never change and was too hard to coach. Ah yes, that was you, Kobe. Look how much has changed.

**Notorious** · 12-29-2012, 06:58 PM

So because Kobe changed means Cousins will?

Cousins has way more issues than Kobe did. Last time I checked I've never heard of Kobe throwing tantrums in the middle of the games, nor did have ever heard of Kobe being suspended for acting an ass and throwing tantrums like an immature brat.

You think the Kings don't hold Cousins accountable for his actions? You think the Kings GM's/coaches/players just let Cousins do whatever he wants and never say anything to him? Players have gotten in his face about how he acts before, he's been suspended and fined by the coaching staff and front office, among other things. People need to stop living in this fantasy world. Cousins has a serious problem, he's borderline bipolar, I fail to see how putting him on a veteran team will change that.

**Red Viper** · 12-29-2012, 07:01 PM

no I'm saying a player can change over time, especially when they're as young as Cousins is. Once again, to give up on a 23 year old for personality issues is crazy, especially one with this much talent. Cousins has never had a season where he had some type a authority figure vet or coach in his presence. You not wanting Cousins on the Celtics is ridiculous because of how good he could possibly make them. Btw Rondo does the shit you just said.

**Notorious** · 12-29-2012, 07:05 PM

Rondo acts an ass at times too, I'm not defending him. What does that have to do with Cousins? See this is the shit I'm talking about, people always deflecting the situation onto others. This has nothing to do with Rondo.

Cousins is a lunatic, that's why I'm giving up on him. His problems go deeper than just immaturity. I would be surprised if he doesn't have bipolar disorder. Paul Westphal apparently tried to be an authority figure...the result, Cousins got him fired.

I wouldn't mind Cousins on the Celtics but I'm not giving up any of Rondo, KG, Pierce or Bradley. Not for that unstable, immature, idiotic, inefficient, moronic fuck. It's not worth it. Doc Rivers is just a kiss-ass, he won't change anything. And what makes you think Cousins will listen to KG or Rondo?

The only person in the NBA I could see "changing" Cousins is Pop and San Antonio would never trade for a player like him.

Coffey · 12-29-2012, 07:07 PM

Not a ton of great games tonight. I guess I'll watch Rockets @ Thunder.

**Red Viper** · 12-29-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Rondo acts an ass at times too, I'm not defending him. What does that have to do with Cousins? See this is the shit I'm talking about, people always deflecting the situation onto others. This has nothing to do with Rondo.

Cousins is a lunatic, that's why I'm giving up on him. His problems go deeper than just immaturity. I would be surprised if he doesn't have bipolar disorder. Paul Westphal apparently tried to be an authority figure...the result, Cousins got him fired.

I wouldn't mind Cousins on the Celtics but I'm not giving up any of Rondo, KG, Pierce or Bradley. Not for that unstable, immature, idiotic, inefficient, moronic fuck. It's not worth it. Doc Rivers is just a kiss-ass, he won't change anything. And what makes you think Cousins will listen to KG or Rondo?

The only person in the NBA I could see "changing" Cousins is Pop and San Antonio would never trade for a player like him.

I wasn't deflecting, I compared him to Rondo as Rondo has a similar problem. Obviously when you say a player has no hopes I'm going to compare him to players that have the same or have had the same problems in the past that have overcome it.

Paul can't command respect in a lockerroom as he isn't seen as that great of a coach. If you can get a coach fired like Cousins can then obviously he wasn't going to respect him. He can't get Doc, Pop, etc fired just by trying which would force him to listen or suffer possible benching. Of course that's what the Kings are trying to do now.

And Cousins would change under Kobe or face the wrath of fucking Kobe. Although he would never end up a Laker.

**Cycloneon** · 12-29-2012, 07:18 PM

Raptors up by 24....

Never found the appeal for bargnani

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**Notorious** · 12-29-2012, 07:19 PM

...or could he just request a trade and have a bunch of other teams lined up trying to trade for him because they think they can change him...

Rondo never really overcame anything. He's had a couple outbursts but he's not a headcase and is highly respected in the locker room by his teammates as the leader of the team. The only teammate he's ever had a bad relationship with is Ray Allen and if everyone can get along with Rondo besides Ray, then Rondo probably isn't the problem.

Cousins is not immune to the death stare.