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#1 ·
Season starts tonight!

New season = new thread.

Get your predictions in and what not. Some of you have done that already in the off-season thread.

Tonights predictions:

Wizards at Cavs
Celtics at Heat
Mavs at Lakers
 
#6,733 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

It's alright though. D-Rose can come back next week and in a month, we'll have Denver vs. Chicago for the Championship. :mark:
 
#6,734 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

God I just want to see him come back ASAP.

While Rose has cleared one important hurdle in his recovery, the former MVP still doesn't plan to return to action until he can "confidently dunk off his left foot," according to an ESPN Chicago report.
WHat kind of excuse is this, the other CHicago players mention before are all banged up but still continue to fight.
 
#6,735 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

If people bitched about Howard for putting off his return after he's was cleared to play then Rose should get the same treatment. I don't mind though. Players earn the right to look out for their self interests. This is a profession after all. If he want to look after his long term well being instead of the short term impact to the team then by all rights he should.
 
#6,739 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

If people bitched about Howard for putting off his return after he's was cleared to play then Rose should get the same treatment. I don't mind though. Players earn the right to look out for their self interests. This is a profession after all. If he want to look after his long term well being instead of the short term impact to the team then by all rights he should.
Actually Howard never put off his return? He actually returned like 3 months early.
 
#6,737 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

Honestly to Bulls fans what would you prefer?

Rose come back now and him not ready and rusty and you guys are a 1st or 2nd round exit or he sit out the season and come back for the start of next season in better shape and you guys have a better shot at the title?
 
#6,738 · (Edited)
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

Honestly to Bulls fans what would you prefer?

Rose come back now and him not ready and rusty and you guys are a 1st or 2nd round exit or he sit out the season and come back for the start of next season in better shape and you guys have a better shot at the title?
Like i said I'd rather have a healthy Rose then a rusty Rose.

We got him for another 6 yrs. anyway.

That way if he does sit out til next season he'd be able to actually have a full off season to work out & be ready like he should.
 
#6,748 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

I don't see how you can despise what he's doing.

Me personally, if this was Rondo, I'd rather him sit out the season and just come back next year than come back rusty and play 20 or so games at the end of the season and the team be a 1st round exit. They aren't winning a title this season if Rose returns or if he sits out the year.
 
#6,750 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

I don't see how you can despise what he's doing.

Me personally, if this was Rondo, I'd rather him sit out the season and just come back next year than come back rusty and play 20 or so games at the end of the season and the team be a 1st round exit. They aren't winning a title this season if Rose returns or if he sits out the year.
does competitive nature mean anything to you? if your superstar doesn't come back because "there's no chance of winning a title this year anyways" then the player in question is pathetic. I would hate any superstar that thinks like that and no one wants their superstar to be like that. :kobe
 
#6,755 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

or it's all the endorsement companies and his agent telling him not to come back in fear of him injuring himself in a season that they deem worthless. yeah, that's FAR more likely. you guys seem to be grasping at straws tbh, how many athletes don't think they're mentally ready to go after getting injured? These guys have uber confidence and I doubt they would think they lost their ability to play at a high level solely because of an injury.
 
#6,756 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

You'd be surprised, Magic. Athletes are regular human beings as well. The recovery process is both physical and mental, you need to be ready to return action both physically and mentally. We've had a similar discussion to this before in this thread before about professional athletes and confidence issues, and this is along the same lines.

I'm not saying his endorsements and agents or other people in his camp aren't playing a part in his delayed return, they could very well be getting in his head, which doesn't help his mental recovery. It's not really that they think they've lost their ability to play at a high level, but it's more of them wanting to be able to play at a high-level and be the player they were before injury and not worry about re-injuring themselves.
 
#6,758 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

Because Rose won't come back playing at a level to lead this team to the title. It's common knowledge and history shows that a guy coming off ACL surgery comes back rusty and not playing up to his normal standards before the surgery, at least not until after time passes and he starts to regain form. Healthy Rose in his MVP season couldn't lead the Bulls past the Heat when it was the worst Heat team they had, I don't like the chances of a rusty Rose coming off a torn ACL against the best Heat team they've had and LeBron having the best season of his career.
 
#6,759 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

Not everyone wins a title, but to not play in the post season because your team "doesn't stand a chance" is beyond pathetic, Notorious and you should not be arguing in favour of that. If that's what you want your superstars to be like then you have a bad idea of what a superstar should be. :kobe
 
#6,762 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

That's a fair argument, but all I can say is Derrick wont be any closer to returning to form unless he gets out there, applies himself to his craft, and goes through some simulated game action. He's not going to ever get an accurate feel of the speed of the game if he keeps limiting himself to controlled environments.
 
#6,766 ·
Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"

That's a fair argument, but all I can say is Derrick wont be any closer to returning to form unless he gets out there, applies himself to his craft, and goes through some simulated game action. He's not going to ever get an accurate feel of the speed of the game if he keeps limiting himself to controlled environments.
That's what I was saying. He's been playing 5-5 full contact almost a month now his teamates know he can play, but won't put on his uniform and leave teammates to grind out the rest of the season? That's not a good message to your team
 
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