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BrosOfDestruction · 12-03-2012, 12:39 AM

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"I think the way Carmelo’s been playing (pause), I mean he’s the best player in the league right now,” said Novak while discussing New York’s 18-1 home record under coach Mike Woodson.

**Chismo** · 12-03-2012, 12:25 PM

I think it's safe to classify D'Antoni as a failure.

BrosOfDestruction · 12-03-2012, 01:20 PM

Nope, gotta wait till Nash comes back until you can pass an accurate judgment on D'Antoni although so far, he's obviously not been much of an upgrade.

**Canadian** · 12-03-2012, 01:31 PM

Has anyone ever considered that it's not so much the coaches fault as it is the Lakers just sucking?

DwayneAustin · 12-03-2012, 01:37 PM

Nash this, Nash that. Is Nash gonna teach Howard how to shoot FTs?

**WWF** · 12-03-2012, 02:26 PM

Considering he's an amazing FT shooter, I don't see why not...

**Notorious** · 12-03-2012, 02:35 PM

The Rockets took an L giving Harden that big ass contract, he's not worth it. Guy has been shit in Houston and the only reason his stats look somewhat decent is because of his first two games which have completely inflated his numbers. You take away his first two games and these are his numbers:

21.7 PPG on 39/32/83 shooting, 5.1 APG, 3.8 RPG, 1.6 SPG, 4.4 TO's per game.

**WWF** · 12-03-2012, 02:42 PM

He's 23 years old, has loads of potential in is the first option on a team for the first time in his career. You're an idiot of you're calling it a loss for Houston after like 16 fucking games.

**Notorious** · 12-03-2012, 02:45 PM

Harden is not good enough to be a #1 option on a contending team and never will be. That's why the Rockets got him right, in hopes that he'll lead their team to relevance and success right?

You can book it, write it down, sig it, I don't really give a fuck. He is the most overrated player in the NBA. I at one point almost fell under the hype after his first two games but after watching him more he just doesn't have "it" to be the guy. He's just not good enough.

He's a chucker, inefficient, inconsistent soft, a mediocre defender and shrinks in crunch time. The only positive he's shown thus far in Houston is his ability to draw fouls and get to the FT line. His ideal role in OKC. He might better off as a 2nd option but he is a failure as a 1st option and I fully stand by that.

BrosOfDestruction · 12-03-2012, 03:20 PM

I agree with Notorious at this point. It is a little early to tell but I don't see the guy improving leaps and bounds in the coming years.

Harden is at best, a secondary star and in reality, I think he's most effective as the third option like he was in OKC. Manu is a great comparison for him in that sense.

I don't think his FG% is as bad as it seems though because he takes a lot of 3s which skews the stat and draws fouls too like you said. His TS% is much more telling of his efficiency and he's at 57.1% for the year which is pretty damn solid for the volume he scores at and considering he's the first option on the team.

Put him as the #2 alongside a perimeter star like KD/Bron and his weaknesses wouldn't be maximized as much, he won't get as much focus and that'd allow him to play more to his strengths imo.

EDIT: Also, I don't think Harden works well with Lin either since they have overlap in their game. Harden is at his best with the ball in his hands since he excels at creating his shot and playing pick and roll. Ball in Harden's hands minimizes Lin's talents (penetrate, drive and kick, pick and roll) and Lin isn't a great spot up shooter anyway so those two don't really work well.