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post #1411 of 8644 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 11:25 PM
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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Where Chandler "MVP" Parsons reigns.

Maybe I'm one of the few people that thinks this, but small is ridiculous and an absolute disgrace to the game to play for full games. I'm looking entirely at the Heat, but they can win with it so whatever, but to implent it into the all star game just because of some ridiculous bullshit that there isn't enough good centers today is annoying the fuck out of me. It's not that there isn't a good amount of good centers that could be allstars, it's the fact that they aren't as marketable as guards/SFs. Players that don't deserve to be getting in have been for years and what does the NBA do about it? Absolutely nothing, instead they get rid of the center position so guys like Love can get in at the expense of a good center and so guys like Griffin will still get in even though they don't deserve it.

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Lopez is making a case to be in it tbh

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Where Chandler "MVP" Parsons reigns.

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Maybe I'm one of the few people that thinks this, but small is ridiculous and an absolute disgrace to the game to play for full games. I'm looking entirely at the Heat, but they can win with it so whatever, but to implent it into the all star game just because of some ridiculous bullshit that there isn't enough good centers today is annoying the fuck out of me. It's not that there isn't a good amount of good centers that could be allstars, it's the fact that they aren't as marketable as guards/SFs. Players that don't deserve to be getting in have been for years and what does the NBA do about it? Absolutely nothing, instead they get rid of the center position so guys like Love can get in at the expense of a good center and so guys like Griffin will still get in even though they don't deserve it.
The reason the NBA changed the rule in their words isn't because lack of centers per-say but it's because of them not knowing how to classify guys as centers. For example, Tim Duncan has been classified as a forward in the All-Star ballots for years now despite the fact that he's been the Spurs staring center for like the past 3 or 4 seasons. KG would've likely been classified as a forward on the ballot despite the fact he would've been the Celtics starting center for a second straight season. Chris Bosh would've likely been classified as a forward on the ballot despite being the Heat's starting center, etc., etc.

For that reasoning I do kind of agree with, however it could've easily been resolved them by them moving Bosh, KG, Duncan, etc. to the center ballots since that's the position they start at.

What you guys are failing to realize is that centers can still make it in the ASG and nothing has changed as far as selecting reserves go. The changing from forwards and centers to frontcourt players is only for the starting ballot. There's no chance in hell Love will get more votes than any one of Durant, Dwight or Griffin. But to the same token, now we get a guy like Chris Bosh getting a well-deserved chance to be able to start in the ASG instead of having a guy like Andrew Bynum get voted in just because he's the most popular guy classified as a center and not deserving it this season. Maybe a change to this rule earlier would've prevented Yao Ming from having a couple of his undeserved ASG appearances, who knows?


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Never said it wasn't cool to be friends, and I don't blame him choosing to chill with Kobe for a season than go to Knicks games..Just don't wanna hear that real Knicks stuck around and didn't cheer on other teams/players..They did

Never said Knicks didn't have fans, I just said majority converted to other squads..Kobe wasn't the only one getting love in MSG this past decade

and I was asking/talking about the entire playoff series
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This game showed how important Kidd is to the team, the ball movement was awful the majority of the game. And also, this 1-3 run should put an end to the "Amar'e should come off the bench" comments, I was one of those supporting that and now I look like an idiot. Can't wait for Shump to come back too
Kidd needs to get well soon. Felton was looking like he was back in PDX . I was smh all game. He was complete asscheeks out there and for some reason he kept shooting. And when did we become such a bad ft shooting team? It's been going on all season.

The 1-3 run is more we need Shump back badly than STAT shouldn't come off the bench. When JR, Sheed, and Novak go 5-21 having STAT with the second unit would have been huge

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Where Chandler "MVP" Parsons reigns.

Andrew Bynum, if healthy, would have 100% been more deserving of being an allstar than Bosh. He only got popular last year and that's because he played exceptionally well. He earned his popularity.


Anyways, that still annoys me though as now most centers won't reach the ASG while small ball FORWARDS will. That's basically what I was saying in my last post too. I hate small ball and feel like it's ruining the game more than making it more interesting. It's just a lot of fast breaks and poorly contested buckets at the rim. Sure it works really well for the Heat, but I don't feel like they should have implemented it in for the ASG. Bosh isn't a center, whether or not his team plays him there, as he just doesn't match up well. KG and Duncan do, with the latter actually being a true center like Pau is a true center, but KG just happens to be an amazing defender capable of playing center, but still is a more natural power forward.


One of the main reasons it annoys me is because we'll likely never have Marc Gasol in the ASG again even though he's one of those true team players that also happens to be really good as well as really talented(like Iggy in the guard position). Guys that are more flashy will still get in over the players that deserve it, but I guess that's because the ASG is a fan thing while the All NBA teams are for the guys that are actually good at their positions.

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Lopez is making a case to be in it tbh
You know when it comes to fan voting, it can be a popularity contest..For example, is there any way Lin does not make the team? Varejao/Hibbert/Lopez gonna have to find a way to make it in over Bosh/KG/Noah/Chandler..All 7 won't make it..Someone is gonna get left out and a fanbase (or two) gonna feel shafted
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Except fans only vote for starters. Coaches vote for reserves.

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Where Chandler "MVP" Parsons reigns.

Which are some players only hope..Even then, guys will get left off...I mean Rondo technically wasnt on last years..He needed an injury

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Re: NBA Thread: 12/13 Season - Where Chandler "MVP" Parsons reigns.

Bulls had me heated yesterday giving up a 27 point lead.

They were looking like the 04 bulls.

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