[Kiz]

i must say i find it hilarious warne doing this 'manifesto' when he's part of the problem. he keeps teasing a return, keeps making sure all the attention is on him, tosses up different names seemingly weekly on who the best spin option is. how many spinners have they tried since he retired? 7? 8? its absurd.

[Sickburn]

Yeah Warney has lost the plot, he should just piss off with Liz back to England. I lost a heap of respect for him after all that shit he pulled with Marlon.

[Kiz]

this is the worst australian team i've seen in my lifetime. easily.

i can tolerate a lack of talent. it's the lack of ability to make up for this that is the worst part. just weak, pathetic individuals besides clarke. none of them seem to value their wicket, they play so many stupid shots. they don't have the temprament for test cricket, and the talent pool is as shallow as i've ever seen it. gone are the days where the likes of stuey macgill, brad hodge and darren lehmann regularly missed out on test cricket.

[Stuart82]

Originally Posted by 93.20

this is the worst australian team i've seen in my lifetime. easily.

i can tolerate a lack of talent. it's the lack of ability to make up for this that is the worst part. just weak, pathetic individuals besides clarke. none of them seem to value their wicket, they play so many stupid shots. they don't have the temprament for test cricket, and the talent pool is as shallow as i've ever seen it. gone are the days where the likes of stuey macgill, brad hodge and darren lehmann regularly missed out on test cricket.

Agree with this. Even worse then mid 80's. Overrated players earning too much for weak performances. Besides Clarke, pattinson, siddle and Warner when he doesn't play shit shots the rest wouldn't get a game for Australia in any other era in the 136 year history of the Australian cricket team. Don bradman would be turning in his grave how Australian cricket is run at the moment.

[Rush]

I blame the lack of importnace placed on Shield cricket. The standard of pitches is bad, the standard of cricket is worse and it doesn't get players ready for test match cricket. Ricky Ponting is far and away the best in Shield cricket right now and he was struggling massively in tests by the end.

[Jammy]

Clarke's wicket made my balls tingle, what a ripper.

[JoeyFlyin]

Originally Posted by 93.20

this is the worst australian team i've seen in my lifetime. easily.

i can tolerate a lack of talent. it's the lack of ability to make up for this that is the worst part. just weak, pathetic individuals besides clarke. none of them seem to value their wicket, they play so many stupid shots. they don't have the temprament for test cricket, and the talent pool is as shallow as i've ever seen it. gone are the days where the likes of stuey macgill, brad hodge and darren lehmann regularly missed out on test cricket.

Vastly over exaggerated post. We have the best quicks anywhere in the world and a huge talent pool of depth. We have four or five fast bowlers who can be rotated in and out of the side and perform instantly. Massive positive. Its just unfortunate that the decks in India havent favored fast bowlers for the last 100 years, and it's always a tough initiation first time round. Same for batsman. Poor players of spin are generally going to struggle.

That being said, our batting is woeful, but we have only just lost Hussey and Ponting, two of the great Australian middle order batsman. Look how India went against England in their first series without Laxman and Dravid. Players dont just come in (in India mind you) and start making runs like Hussey and Ponting did.

Be patient, it's not all doom and gloom. We have only lost two tests on the bounce so it aint the end of the world yet.

[Rush]

South Africa have the best pace bowlers by far. Steyn, Morkel and Philander are brilliant in tandem. Haven't seen England play in awhile but Anderson is quality and they were easily better last Ashes series.

As far as this team goes, Doherty is fucking horrible, Maxwell is not a test cricketer, Hughes is lacking against spin, Cowan is way too slow, Watson should be opening, Warner needs to pull his head in and think about his shots, Henriques is new and Clarke is our only outstanding player.

[Kiz]

Originally Posted by JoeyFlyin

Vastly over exaggerated post. We have the best quicks anywhere in the world and a huge talent pool of depth. We have four or five fast bowlers who can be rotated in and out of the side and perform instantly. Massive positive. Its just unfortunate that the decks in India havent favored fast bowlers for the last 100 years, and it's always a tough initiation first time round. Same for batsman. Poor players of spin are generally going to struggle.

That being said, our batting is woeful, but we have only just lost Hussey and Ponting, two of the great Australian middle order batsman. Look how India went against England in their first series without Laxman and Dravid. Players dont just come in (in India mind you) and start making runs like Hussey and Ponting did.

Be patient, it's not all doom and gloom. We have only lost two tests on the bounce so it aint the end of the world yet.

it's not over exaggerated at all. in my lifetime it is the worst australian cricket team. we have 4-5 fast bowlers who are also injured and damaged the potential rotation.

it's not the lack of ability that's annoying me, it's the lack of effort. how many stupid shots did you see when all a batsman needed to do was block. i expect someone like watson to no play a stupid shot on a pitch with horribly unpredictable bounce. to think that man is a vice captain, he should be smarter then that.

that second test was just us bending over begging for it from india. no desire, no want to keep your wicket, it all seemed just a bit hard for them really, the poor buggers

and what makes me make that statement as well is the lack of players performing domestically. im a fan of chadd sayers, but for him to be the leading wicket taker in the shield shows a big dip in quality levels. khawaja replacing hughes? whoop di fuck. a guy with many chances being tossed aside for a guy with many chances.

[Bullseye]

Also it's been a steady slide since the Ashes defeat. Sure, beating up on India and Sri Lanka on our pitches is all well and good, but we were exposed by South Africa and flatout outplayed during their series. Couldn't take 20 wickets in Adelaide, and couldn't bat out a draw in Perth.

The cleanout needs to happen from the top down. Inverarity is a useless, clueless cunt who shouldn't be within cooee of a selection panel - he's almost as bad as the last wanker.