[Austin & DX]

Originally Posted by sXe_Maverick

South Africa never do well in major tournaments. All goes back to when Herschelle Gibbs dropped the World Cup back in 99, followed by Allan Donald's genius running between the wickets. Or the brilliant calculations of Shaun Pollock in 2003.

Agreed, SA should've beaten AUS 99 semis world cup match but they lost. I'd think PAK-WI final this year or PAK-AUS final

[CREDMI]

Originally Posted by Rush

David Hussey doesn't have 5 years left in him. As far as Doherty goes, in 1 match Doherty took more wickets than Hogg has in the entire tournament combined. He is a better bowler, and unlike Hogg can be our spinner for many years to come. If you don't rotate your squad, give people experience and move players on when they get too old then when they do retire you're left with complete rookies.
Only have to look at West Indies during the early 90's, and to a lesser extent Australia recently to see what happens when you don't keep developing talent.

Not sure you could call him the better bowler YET. He may turn out to be, only time will tell, but success in one international game (which I have to admit I didn't watch) does not maketh the man. In the last Big Bash tourney, which I did see, except for 1 match where he got 4/17, he did very little to impress me. His tourney's combined figures of 8/221 off 30 overs were not bad at all, but Hoggy's tourney figures of 13/191 off 34 overs were far better. That's probably why Doherty sat out the first few matches in this tourney, while the better bowler, past & present, played.

[Bullseye]

You didn't just use the Big Bash to support your argument, did you?

[Rush]

Okay let me stop you there, 1) How old do you think Doherty is? and 2) How old do you expect cricket players to play until? He's not a young newcomer, he's 29 and Hogg is past his prime.

[CREDMI]

Originally Posted by Rush

Okay let me stop you there, 1) How old do you think Doherty is? and 2) How old do you expect cricket players to play until? He's not a young newcomer, he's 29 and Hogg is past his prime.

Umm, firstly Doherty is 29, about to turn 30, as you mentioned in that post, not sure of the point of asking a question & then answering it, but each to their own I suppose.
Secondly, what age should cricketers play to? How long is a piece of string? Fuck knows, it depends on the player & the piece of string!! When it comes to cricketers, I guess they should continue to play until their passion for the game has died or they are a liabilty to their team, neither of which could be said about Hogg in this tournament.
Also, yep sXe Maverick, I used the Big Bash to support my argument for two main reasons:
1. In the last Big Bash, both Hogg & Doherty bowled to the same/very similar opposition players, so it is a good basis to compare each of their performances.
2. The Australian selectors obviously used it as a guide to pick their side, otherwise a previously retired Brad Hogg wouldn't have even come into consideration in this tourney.

[DarthSimian]

So, the final stages of what has been a very entertaining and exciting tournament. The Super 8s have been quite fun - 3-4 super over matches, teams defeating each other in rotation by good margins and suspense till the final day on who will qualify in both groups.

SL vs Pakistan should be good game - but with Paksitan's bad record in SL during recent years, SL have a good advantage but their dependence on top 3 will surely come to play.

Aus vs WI will be basically Watson vs Gayle. Should be quite exciting.

Anyway, one good tournament to another. Champions League starts on 9th October.
Great time for cricket fans.

[CREDMI]

It's sad to see the white ferns eliminated from the tourney :-( But I guess the better(looking) team won, so it isn't all that bad :-))

[Bullseye]

Darth this 'tournament' has been far from great. The 'champions league' will be another farce, but at least the South African pitches will throw up competitive games.

[Mr.Cricket]

This is easily the worst T20 world cup ever.

[CREDMI]

I always used to laugh at the children at school who were unable to fight their way out of a paper bag by using either words or their fists, running to the principal was always an act of cowardice in my eyes, something only the meekest of girls used to do. Looks like nothing has changed in my adult life, frock wearing cowardly bitches always seem to be in a "rush" to cry to authority figures when they get owned. LMFAO!!!