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post #641 of 970 (permalink) Old 11-24-2012, 11:50 PM
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Manti or Johnny Football for Heisman, fellas'?


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I'd vote for Manziel.


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Teo... without him that D isn't going to be this elite and thus the Irish would not be undefeated. So he has the leadership, the numbers, and just the fact his team is undefeated. Manziel is scary though in the future.

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post #645 of 970 (permalink) Old 11-24-2012, 11:57 PM
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Manti or Johnny Football for Heisman, fellas'?
I'm taking Marqise Lee personally since I do believe he's the best player in the country, but to play along and choose between specifically those two, Manziel
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So he has the leadership, the numbers, and just the fact his team is undefeated.
Too bad that has absolutely nothing to do with being the best player in the country. Tebow won it as a sophomore leading a 4 (3 at the time of the award) loss Florida team and Griffin just last year leading a 3 loss Baylor team.

As far as numbers go, if Mathieu didn't win it last year, then T'eo shouldn't win it this year. The talent pool this year compared to last year is a little down, but even then T'eo is not the best player in the country I don't think.

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Manziel is scary right now. If he were a Sophomore or a Junior, this wouldn't even be a discussion.

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Teo. I'm sick of the offensive bias. Want to see a defensive player win it.
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Too bad that has absolutely nothing to do with being the best player in the country. Tebow won it as a sophomore leading a 4 (3 at the time of the award) loss Florida team and Griffin just last year leading a 3 loss Baylor team.

As far as numbers go, if Mathieu didn't win it last year, then T'eo shouldn't win it this year. The talent pool last year compared to this year is a little down, but even then T'eo is not the best player in the country I don't think.


Manziel is scary right now. If he were a Sophomore or a Junior, this wouldn't even be a discussion.
Except he has good numbers against all FBS teams to back it up. I won't argue Manziel didn't deserve it... he has the numbers. But I'd put Teo right up there and his contributions to his team are much more impactful this season.

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What would it take for OSU to win the AP Poll this year?


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Manziel has 4600 yards on the season surpassing Newton's incredible year. I'm cool with a defender getting the trophy but not when an offensive player has a season like this.

Sorry Stacks but it seems impossible. Buckeyes won't be playing a bowl game. Still highly amused that Ohio St is ineligible and they go undefeated for the first time since 2002 (when they won the BCS title). Obviously they'd be playing in the Big10 title game and if they won, they'd be the ones playing ND.


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