so you're telling me they didn't have a good defense or respectable runningbacks when he took over? And how the fuck is 6-10 even comparable to 2-14? You realize there's a huge difference in 4 wins, right? I think it's time for you to go if you're actually saying that Big Ben took over a team that was as the Colts were. :bosh
so you're telling me they didn't have a good defense or respectable runningbacks when he took over? And how the fuck is 6-10 even comparable to 2-14? You realize there's a huge difference in 4 wins, right? I think it's time for you to go if you're actually saying that Big Ben took over a team that was as the Colts were. :bosh
Wut? They were suppose to be rebuilding. They were suppose to be worse than the year prior that year. You realize they won 15 games right? 15 GAMES! With a QB that was suppose to be 3rd string. There's also a big difference between at best 12 wins and 15 wins. I don't care which team was suppose to be worse. What he did is miraculous. I don't really care who is "better". Ben can keep winning and you guys can keep listing QBs you think are better. Doesn't much matter.
Wonder how many more game we must lose before Chargers management finally decides to fire Norv Turner. We fired Marty after a 14-2 season and somehow this joke is still around.
Statistically he was bad and statistically I assume the worst numbers for a superbowl winning QB but he did make two plays which the win completely depended on. 3rd and 28 and the ankle tackle after THE BUS fumbled.
It's not hard to list QBs that are better than Big Ben because there are plenty. Superbowls are a team accomplishment more than a individuals accomplishment. So are wins, but Luck is the reason we're winning and there's absolutely no doubt about it because we're still pretty bad all across the board.
Ya they would have lost that game if that tackle didn't happen.
You can list all the QBs you want UDFK and I'll probably disagree with a certain number of them and a certain number will probably you being a fool. OH WELL.
And you will disagree with a certain number of them because you're as much of a biased homer as the rest of you. It really doesn't mean much. You value him more because he's on your team.
Not really. I will disagree because I think you're wrong. People hate on him for stupid reasons. The guy was having an MVP caliber season this year but he's still meh to a lot of people. I really don't care. I can name NFL QBs better than him. There's really not many I'd rather have though. For a number of reasons.
Not really. I will disagree because I think you're wrong. People hate on him for stupid reasons. The guy was having an MVP caliber season this year but he's still meh to a lot of people. I really don't care. I can name NFL QBs better than him. There's really not many I'd rather have though. For a number of reasons.
And you like him more than other people because you're a fan of his because he plays for YOUR team. If you honestly don't think you have a bias like normal people do for their teams/players then you really are a moron. There is a reason after all that he's meh to a lot of people even though the Steelers are usually successful and he's already won two Superbowls.
My list is basically the same as Notorious' except I think he's on par with Eli. There are the elite and then subelite guys like Eli/Ben who step up when their teams need it most and play at an elite level.
My list is basically the same as Notorious' except I think he's on par with Eli. There are the elite and then subelite guys like Eli/Ben who step up when their teams need it most and play at an elite level.
I'm pretty sure the consensus top 5 right now is in any order: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli.
Btw, I'm not too sure about Luck making a jump into top 5 next year. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's not even the best QB from his draft class, at least not the consensus one.
yeah all those failed wins really meant a lot, almost as much as they mean this year. Cam doesn't compare to Luck and there is a reason Luck would have been drafted ahead of Cam in the 2011 draft as well, even you wanted Luck.
I'm pretty sure the consensus top 5 right now is in any order: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli.
Btw, I'm not too sure about Luck making a jump into top 5 next year. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's not even the best QB from his draft class, at least not the consensus one.
He plays like a pro and has the posture of one. Anything could happen next year, hell Eli has already played like shit this season so there's no reason to think he could easily fall out of his spot if he doesn't do well in the playoffs again.
You're a binafide idiot, dude. It's a team game. Cam just about always gets the team a lead in the 4th, but the defense constantly blows it. Look at the Atlanta/Tampa/Chicago games.
and take that with ya!!!, Go Rams - still undefeated in the NFC West with the youngest team in the league - Bright days ahead hopefully - felt sooooo damnnn good to beat the 49ers
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