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NFL Thread: RAVENS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

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Preseason cranks up tomorrow and that means we're less than a month from games that count.

This is the best time of year.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

24 penalties last night. :lmao

The one on Mccourty for holding and the one on Webb on the pick were absolutely ridiculous. It got to a point where I was shocked if there wasn't a flag on a play.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

RG3 is supposed to have a cannon but is it me or did he under throw the shit out of that Hail Mary yesterday? Even from your own 41... if you have a true cannon you should at least sniff the endzone with your hardest bomb. Probably picking on the guy but just saying.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

RG3 is supposed to have a cannon but is it me or did he under throw the shit out of that Hail Mary yesterday? Even from your own 41... if you have a true cannon you should at least sniff the endzone with your hardest bomb. Probably picking on the guy but just saying.
It looked like he was throwing to convert the 3rd & 45 instead of going for the endzone.
 
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I hate the Ravens but I'm happy for Smith and how well he played yesterday. I can't even imagine.

Too early to tell if the Cardinals are truly good or not, but there's no denying that their defense is great. If they can run the ball as well as they did yesterday they should be able to compete in any game.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

Until now I didn't really realize how bad the replacement refs were. Last night the Patriots/Ravens game was a disaster on the national stage that got 13.4 ratings.

Belichek most likely will be suspended a game for putting his hands on a ref and I'd agree with it.

From Yahoo Sports:

This, from New England linebacker Brandon Spikes on his Twitter account:
Can someone please tell these f&^%ing zebras foot locker called and they're needed Back at work !!!! #BreakingPoint


Now the field goal ending without a replay is more of an issue with the rulebook than the officials. The rule states the field goal is not reviewable, however ALL scores plays MUST be reviewed. So what rule supercedes here? That has to be clarified. How can you not review a game winning kick? If it was a TD it would of been reviewed automatically. That's just ridiculous.

The penalties were awful:
#1. Offensive pass interference on Endleman. The defender never even turned around.
#2. Two 15 yard penalties on Baltimore for late hits/fighting. Logan Mankins headbutted a guy-no call.
#3. Holding call on Gronkowski. "Wow, No" was the comment from Al Micheals.
#4. False start call on Baltimore after Wilfork jumped offsides first.
#5 Reversal of first down call on a challenge in the first quarter.

It's time the NFL gets it act together-pay the pro refs the money and send these guys back to Division 2.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

Also add to your list them calling illegal contact on Ladarius Webb towards the end of the game when he picked off Brady.

Also it was a play in the 4th quarter where Flacco threw it deep and overthrew the receiver but they called PI on McCourty, and it was another terrible call.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

PI is always controversial. I don't think we should ever cite instances of this.

I'm gonna be controversial myself and say these guys haven't done a bad job considering where they've come from. HOWEVER, they never should've been put here in the first place. If you're a multi-billion dollar business, fucking pay your employees if they want a raise and have contributed to the well being of the business. Referees, though we bitch about them, do really well and really have contributed to the NFL's prosperity. It's absurd.

In other words I agree with what I think is your overall sentiment. This is the NFL's fault, not the replacement refs themselves.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

PI is always controversial. I don't think we should ever cite instances of this.

I'm gonna be controversial myself and say these guys haven't done a bad job considering where they've come from. HOWEVER, they never should've been put here in the first place. If you're a multi-billion dollar business, fucking pay your employees if they want a raise and have contributed to the well being of the business. Referees, though we bitch about them, do really well and really have contributed to the NFL's prosperity. It's absurd.

In other words I agree with what I think is your overall sentiment. This is the NFL's fault, not the replacement refs themselves.
I read a pretty good article a while back breaking down what's on the table here during these negotiations. Surprisingly, the NFLRA wants double the increase what the NFL is offering, but that's not the main issue at point. Apparently, the NFLRA is willing to sacrifice such a huge raise for the issues that follow.

The two big issues are the NFL wanting to expand their official referee crews from 17 to 20 which would give each referee crew 2 bye weeks during the season instead of 1, which means two less checks per year/per ref. Also, the referee's want a 401k for retirement. It might just be me, but that is absurd considering they work regular jobs and then referee on the weekends 1 day a week 6 months out of the year.
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

Fuck I should have brought my radio to listen to weei at work. worst calls for me was the holding on Gronk where after the replay Al Michaels and Chris were like where was the hold. It was nowhere to be seen. And that PI call on Julian. Pats hurt themselves with some stupid playcalling at times but the refs helped them Lose that game. The pass defense was a major part. once they had to rely on there D to win I was worried. Did they sack Flacco at all.

Also forgot that play where Ray Lewis basically tackled Gronk when he was running a route and nothing was called.
 
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Once and I think the refs called it back on penalties.

The Patriots pass defense has it's moments but just like last season they just can't seem to cover deep passes which is ultimately why we lost the game.

Also that tackling when Dennis Pitta scored that touchdown might be the worst I've ever seen from a pro defensive player.

Also after last night's game, the Pats drop from #2 overall defense to #14, pass defense goes from top 10 to #24, but at least the run defense is still top 10.

I knew the great defensive numbers wouldn't last, but I thought we would at least make it to week 5 :(
 
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re: NFL Thread: Week 4 - RIP Steve Sabol GOAT - Anyone see that GB/Sea game?

You know the referee situation is bad when WWE makes fun of it while it's relevant.
 
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This one is up there with one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen from a defensive line. It's not helping that the Packers are arrogantly still calling plays with deep routes.
 
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Rodgers has -4 fantasy points. Ugh...
-4? What the hell is the scoring like in your league??? :confused:

I got him in 2 leagues. In one league he has 10 points, and the other he has 17. I need to pick up a backup. My current ones are Cutler and Luck. Next week I'm starting him since he's facing the Saints pathetic defense (even though their rushing defense is worse), but after that I don't know. He's killing my team right now.
 
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