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Texans are going for home field. They obviously aren't pretenders lol.

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When I think of a pretender I think of a team that isn't as good their regular season says or fails to live up to their regular season hype in the playoffs.

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A pretender is a team that looks good coming out the gate, but is exposed as a fraud, ie isn't actually a good team. For instance, the Cardinals were poster boy pretenders. Started 4-0 and are easily one of the worst teams in the league. While Houston might not be as good as their record indicates, they clearly are a good team.

I won't see it as a failure if the Texans lose in the AFC title game.

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And Notorious is right to believe they are pretenders. Both the Falcons and the Texans. They both have had some fluky victories and some luck. They both have had some injuries on defense to key players that may bite them in the playoffs. The Falcons have been in this spot before and lost in their first playoff game. The Texans Defense is actually allowing more yards through than before. Pretenders might not be the best word for it, but they aren't the best teams in their conference.

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Anyone tell me what time the Seattle game starts GMT?

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Nah he's wrong. Pretender is too extreme of a label to put on playoff contending teams. There can be exceptions, but Houston and Atlanta aren't pretenders by any stretch. Are they clearly the best teams in each conference? Hell no. Parity rules these realms.


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It starts around 7:20 CST. Do the math from there. I think it's 6-8 hours difference. Not sure.

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A pretender is a team that looks good coming out the gate, but is exposed as a fraud, ie isn't actually a good team. For instance, the Cardinals were poster boy pretenders. Started 4-0 and are easily one of the worst teams in the league. While Houston might not be as good as their record indicates, they clearly are a good team.

I won't see it as a failure if the Texans lose in the AFC title game.
I will. A team with the best record in the conference should be Super Bowl or bust, anything less is a failure.

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Maybe in 1995 the HFA team should be SB or bust, but not anymore. Teams are too close together in this era.

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Atlanta and Houston aren't contenders, but that doesn't make them pretenders either. It's not one or the other at this point in the season, they've shown they can beat teams, but have histories that say they won't. Might that change this year? Don't know until it happens, but HFA teams lose as many second round games as they win of late, so what does it matter really?


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