[Red Viper]

Originally Posted by Yukon Aid Cornelius

2011: Giants. Def Rank: 6
2010: Packers. Def Rank: 28
2009: Saints. Def Rank: 8
2008: Steelers. Def Rank: 32
2007: Giants. Def Rank: 26
2006: Colts. Def Rank: 12
2005: Steelers. Def Rank: 29
2004: Patriots. Def Rank: 24
2003: Patriots. Def Rank: 26
2002: Buccaneers. Def Rank: 32

Does Brady really need an elite defense to win the Super Bowl? Of the last ten winners, only three teams had a top 16 defense the year they won.

To add another point:

2012 Patriots Defense Rank Right Now: 7

The offense is looking better, the defense is playing better, they have a running game, and they lost their three games this season by a combined 4 points.

someone doesn't understand how I operate in this thread.

[HeatWave]

Originally Posted by Yukon Aid Cornelius

2011: Giants. Def Rank: 6
2010: Packers. Def Rank: 28
2009: Saints. Def Rank: 8
2008: Steelers. Def Rank: 32
2007: Giants. Def Rank: 26
2006: Colts. Def Rank: 12
2005: Steelers. Def Rank: 29
2004: Patriots. Def Rank: 24
2003: Patriots. Def Rank: 26
2002: Buccaneers. Def Rank: 32

Does Brady really need an elite defense to win the Super Bowl? Of the last ten winners, only three teams had a top 16 defense the year they won.

To add another point:

2012 Patriots Defense Rank Right Now: 7

The offense is looking better, the defense is playing better, they have a running game, and they lost their three games this season by a combined 4 points.

Pats issues were never defensive honestly...They gave up only 17 in the last 2 SB..Pats biggest issue imo is balance, which is why they won the 1st 3 and lost the last 2..Even Green Bay developed balance in the playoffs which propelled them to the SB win..Starks ran for a good 300+ in 4 playoff games that year..Pats don't need a 100 yd rusher every game, but one to keep defenses honest and not tee off on Brady so much..

[Notorious]

And now we have our best running game in years. Although I still think BB is a little too hard on Ridley, but it'll probably make him a better player in the long run.

[MetalX]

Big test next sunday against the Ravens. We need to prove we can beat top teams and winning in Baltimore makes us a force going into the playoffs.

[IMPULSE]

the ravens aren't a test. you have a cupcake schedule and beating a stumbling ravens team won't prove anything, if they lose they'll have dropped 3 straight. they have a new play caller and i'm just telling you this to prepare you for the broncos win being diminished.

i hate this thread title.

yukon flipping the rankings on their head annoyed me.

[Perfect Poster]

Originally Posted by Yukon Aid Cornelius

2011: Giants. Def Rank: 6
2010: Packers. Def Rank: 28
2009: Saints. Def Rank: 8
2008: Steelers. Def Rank: 32
2007: Giants. Def Rank: 26
2006: Colts. Def Rank: 12
2005: Steelers. Def Rank: 29
2004: Patriots. Def Rank: 24
2003: Patriots. Def Rank: 26
2002: Buccaneers. Def Rank: 32

Where did you get these rankings? These are way off.

[TomahawkJock]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those two Steeler teams had better defenses than that.

[Notorious]

Actually those numbers are right. Look it up on NFL.com.

[IMPULSE]

The way the rankings are make you think their wrong b/c it seems flipped. That 32 is first and that's not my delusional Steelers love bleeding through, it's me remembering how hyped the bucs defense was when they won and that being the last time the packers having a good defense.

That's why I said they were flipped or weren't presented in the traditional sense of 1 being the top in this case it's 32, which is stupid.

[Notorious]

Yeah now that I pay attention, they are flipped. Because I too was confused because I remember hearing how great the Bucs defense was in 2002 but when I searched I just saw them ranked as 32 but didn't pay attention. Now that I look at, they are flipped so you were right. Which is stupid as hell.

So really it's
2002 Buccaneers - 1st
2003 Patriots - 7th
2004 Patriots - 9th
2005 Steelers - 4th
2006 Colts - 21st
2007 Giants - 7th
2008 Steelers - 1st
2009 Saints - 25th
2010 Packers - 5th
2011 Giants - 27th