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**Red Viper** · 12-11-2012, 01:34 AM

Brady cant win a superbowl without an ELITE defense. you guys might as well shutup now before getting ELI'D again.

**MrMister** · 12-11-2012, 01:37 AM

I thought McDaniels called a pretty damn good game. He can't block for them. He can only call the plays. It's up to them to execute it. McDaniels had a solid game plan. And I can't believe I'm saying that.

This year's defense is pretty good Magic.

**Red Viper** · 12-11-2012, 01:50 AM

not elite though. theyre just preparing to fail again.

**MrMister** · 12-11-2012, 01:56 AM

We'll see. This is a different Patriots team than the ones we've seen the past few years. There's something going on here that makes me wonder how good they can be.

HeatWave · 12-11-2012, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcade

Houston Texans: Beat a good team, the team that they beat wasn't good in the first place. Lose to a good team, they are frauds and failures.

Why doesn't this apply to other teams?

Edit: Damn I meant to quote HeatWave, but my point still stands.

Who said it doesn't apply to other teams? Read my other posts on the Bears/Ravens/Falcons & dry your eyes...Maybe I'll respect the Texans when they give reason to be trusted..You just keep holding on to those Ravens & Bears victories

**IMPULSE** · 12-11-2012, 09:44 PM

laughing at ESPN deciding to scale back their TEBOW coverage b/c some former employee comments about their tebow obsession hurt the president's feelings.

the chargers better win out this month and i'm pissed that cam lost his job.

the conversationalist was suspend for contract detrimental to the team. he was probably trying to start a protest outside the practice facility asking to play again, he should be gone after this season.

tomlin annoys me and this continuing problem with steelers annoy me. teams looks so unprepared at times and i can't even keep up with the injuries.

**CamillePunk** · 12-11-2012, 09:50 PM

CAM CAMERON IS GONE

THANK YOU JESUS

**LadyCroft** · 12-11-2012, 09:53 PM

Looks like Dez is trying to be a legend and wants to play through the pain... Dez with the Cowboy Up! That fucking win over my Bengals better have not been for naught

**Aid180** · 12-11-2012, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAGIC of Christmas

not elite though. theyre just preparing to fail again.

2011: Giants. Def Rank: 6
2010: Packers. Def Rank: 28
2009: Saints. Def Rank: 8
2008: Steelers. Def Rank: 32
2007: Giants. Def Rank: 26
2006: Colts. Def Rank: 12
2005: Steelers. Def Rank: 29
2004: Patriots. Def Rank: 24
2003: Patriots. Def Rank: 26
2002: Buccaneers. Def Rank: 32

Does Brady really need an elite defense to win the Super Bowl? Of the last ten winners, only three teams had a top 16 defense the year they won.

To add another point:

2012 Patriots Defense Rank Right Now: 7

The offense is looking better, the defense is playing better, they have a running game, and they lost their three games this season by a combined 4 points.

**CamillePunk** · 12-12-2012, 11:58 AM

"Joe Flacco said he was "stunned" by the firing of Cam Cameron." - Ravens official twitter feed.

God damn it Joe you dense motherfucker. I can't believe how oblivious this team is about it's shortcomings. I'd like to think they're just being diplomatic but they kept that motherfucker for entirely too long for me to believe that. Pretty sure Cam's firing came down from the top (STEVE BISCOTTI). Harbs is taking the responsibility for the decision to fire his good buddy Cam but fuck if I believe that either.

GIVE RAY RICE THE DAMN BALL.