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Old 12-03-2012, 01:21 AM   #4541 (permalink)
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Just glad the Fins are showing a little fight.

That said: Charlie fucking Batch. Mad respect.
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Fuck Steelers & Browns.

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Chiefs going to have two back to back Game of the Year contenders! They face the Browns this week! What a matchup.
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I'd like too see if it gets answered and opinions on it and what not, when people talk about who the good teams are, people try to use the whole who has rings and who doesn't theory, how many years do you feel a team can live off my team has a ring, yours doesn't theory for it to be a logical and good reason too say said team is better? Like okay the Jets have 1 Superbowl Ring, where the Falcons do not, but the Jet's Superbowl was in 1968 back when it was still an NFL/AFL championship game, would that make them better then the Falcons? or any other team that doesn't have a Superbowl ring because people who don't play anymore won a Superbowl for the team?

For me, it depends on how many you got before you can set a year, 1 ring I say after about 7 or 8 years, that ring vs no ring shouldn't apply, then I guess after awhile you just keep adding a year from there if you like for each ring said team has. I ask this because I see some 1-2 ring teams fans use the ring theory after not having a Superbowl win in a few years and it's like, the ones who won that ring have nothing to do at all with the game anymore, and if they do it's like maybe 1 or 2 at the most still on the team and that doesn't really make them better.
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I think the validity of the ring for that season should not be questioned. However, the year that you win the ring is the year that you can brag about it until the following Super Bowl. The Saints winning a Super Bowl in 2009 doesn't mean anything now except that they won a Super Bowl...in 2009.
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I don't really fully grasp what you're asking but to determine if you're a good team right now you have to look at what they've done for you lately. What they did 3, 4, 13, 27, etc years ago has no impact on whether they are good NOW.

However, if you want to consider success of a franchise you can look at how often they make the playoffs, how many championships they've won. Division titles. Etc.
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I think the validity of the ring for that season should not be questioned. However, the year that you win the ring is the year that you can brag about it until the following Super Bowl. The Saints winning a Super Bowl in 2009 doesn't mean anything now except that they won a Super Bowl...in 2009.
Funny you mention them because that's sorta why I asked this question, a Saints fan use the one ring they have as a reason why they are better then the Falcons, both games this year, 2 different winners, then you got to look at the fact the Falcons are 11-1 and as of yesterday the NFC South Champions, so by how you look at it(and in away, away I look at it also) the Falcons would be the better team right?

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I don't really fully grasp what you're asking but to determine if you're a good team right now you have to look at what they've done for you lately. What they did 3, 4, 13, 27, etc years ago has no impact on whether they are good NOW.

However, if you want to consider success of a franchise you can look at how often they make the playoffs, how many championships they've won. Division titles. Etc.
So pretty much the same thing?

Like really anytime I see a former Superbowl team doing bad in a season, people always try to bring up the ring, honestly maybe the only team that can go off that could POSSIBLY be the defending champions, but other then that maybe not who knows, people do seem to live in the past too much when there team's not doing as great as others that have yet to win the big one.
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Funny you mention them because that's sorta why I asked this question, a Saints fan use the one ring they have as a reason why they are better then the Falcons, both games this year, 2 different winners, then you got to look at the fact the Falcons are 11-1 and as of yesterday the NFC South Champions, so by how you look at it(and in away, away I look at it also) the Falcons would be the better team right?
Right now, yes. The Falcons are the better team.
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Like really anytime I see a former Superbowl team doing bad in a season, people always try to bring up the ring, honestly maybe the only team that can go off that could POSSIBLY be the defending champions, but other then that maybe not who knows, people do seem to live in the past too much when there team's not doing as great as others that have yet to win the big one.
Rings ultimately give franchises credibility and fans will ride that as long as possible. Saints fans can easily say, sure the Falcons are good this year but they've been good before and have choked. And this of course is true and the Falcons definitely have something to prove come playoff time. Same thing can be said about the Texans although it's not really fair as Schwab got hurt last year and who knows what they would have/could have done if he hadn't.

Better? Look right now.
Credibility? Look over a longer period of time.
Overall success? Look over a long period of time.

Look at the Eagles in the early to mid 2000s too. A lot of good seasons but they really didn't get any credibility from it as they consistently choked in the NFC championship or before.
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