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**Notorious** · 12-02-2012, 08:05 PM

QB's I think are better than Big Ben currently:
Brady
Rodgers
Peyton
Eli
Brees

**Arcade** · 12-02-2012, 08:06 PM

Dallas vs. Philadelphia? Just two mediocre teams going against each other.

**Red Viper** · 12-02-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JM

Not really. I will disagree because I think you're wrong. People hate on him for stupid reasons. The guy was having an MVP caliber season this year but he's still meh to a lot of people. I really don't care. I can name NFL QBs better than him. There's really not many I'd rather have though. For a number of reasons.

Go ahead and list them though.

And you like him more than other people because you're a fan of his because he plays for YOUR team. If you honestly don't think you have a bias like normal people do for their teams/players then you really are a moron. There is a reason after all that he's meh to a lot of people even though the Steelers are usually successful and he's already won two Superbowls.

JM · 12-02-2012, 08:09 PM

I'm pretty sure I have no problem making my thoughts on any player known regardless of who they play for.

Just make your list UDFK. I don't think anyone here is saying he's the best in the league.

**Aid180** · 12-02-2012, 08:12 PM

I'll go ahead and say what we are all thinking, Andrew Luck will be a top 5 QB in the league next year.

**Red Viper** · 12-02-2012, 08:13 PM

My list is basically the same as Notorious' except I think he's on par with Eli. There are the elite and then subelite guys like Eli/Ben who step up when their teams need it most and play at an elite level.

**WWF** · 12-02-2012, 08:13 PM

LUCK? LOL

He can't touch CAM in terms of rookie RAPE ability.

**Notorious** · 12-02-2012, 08:13 PM

Who's spot does he take?

I'm pretty sure the consensus top 5 right now is in any order: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli.

Btw, I'm not too sure about Luck making a jump into top 5 next year. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's not even the best QB from his draft class, at least not the consensus one.

**Red Viper** · 12-02-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WWF

LUCK? LOL

He can't touch CAM in terms of rookie RAPE ability.

yeah all those failed wins really meant a lot, almost as much as they mean this year. Cam doesn't compare to Luck and there is a reason Luck would have been drafted ahead of Cam in the 2011 draft as well, even you wanted Luck.

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Originally Posted by Notorious E.L.F.

Who's spot does he take?

I'm pretty sure the consensus top 5 right now is in any order: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Peyton, Eli.

Btw, I'm not too sure about Luck making a jump into top 5 next year. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He's not even the best QB from his draft class, at least not the consensus one.

He plays like a pro and has the posture of one. Anything could happen next year, hell Eli has already played like shit this season so there's no reason to think he could easily fall out of his spot if he doesn't do well in the playoffs again.

**Notorious** · 12-02-2012, 08:32 PM

I'm not saying it's unlikely Eli that falls out of the top 5, but I just don't think Luck will make a jump into top 5 next year.

Who knows, he can always prove me wrong, he's talented enough to do it. But I just don't see him making a jump to be a consensus top 5 QB.