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**LadyCroft** · 12-02-2012, 07:39 PM

I bet Nick Foles has never killed a dog.

Stall_19 · 12-02-2012, 07:40 PM

Wonder how many more game we must lose before Chargers management finally decides to fire Norv Turner. We fired Marty after a 14-2 season and somehow this joke is still around.

JM · 12-02-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The MAGIC of Christmas

so you're telling me they didn't have a good defense or respectable runningbacks when he took over? And how the fuck is 6-10 even comparable to 2-14? You realize there's a huge difference in 4 wins, right? I think it's time for you to go if you're actually saying that Big Ben took over a team that was as the Colts were.

Wut? They were suppose to be rebuilding. They were suppose to be worse than the year prior that year. You realize they won 15 games right? 15 GAMES! With a QB that was suppose to be 3rd string. There's also a big difference between at best 12 wins and 15 wins. I don't care which team was suppose to be worse. What he did is miraculous. I don't really care who is "better". Ben can keep winning and you guys can keep listing QBs you think are better. Doesn't much matter.

**MrMister** · 12-02-2012, 07:43 PM

Steelers won the SB that first time in spite of Big Ben.

JM · 12-02-2012, 07:47 PM

Statistically he was bad and statistically I assume the worst numbers for a superbowl winning QB but he did make two plays which the win completely depended on. 3rd and 28 and the ankle tackle after THE BUS fumbled.

**Red Viper** · 12-02-2012, 07:50 PM

It's not hard to list QBs that are better than Big Ben because there are plenty. Superbowls are a team accomplishment more than a individuals accomplishment. So are wins, but Luck is the reason we're winning and there's absolutely no doubt about it because we're still pretty bad all across the board.

**MrMister** · 12-02-2012, 07:51 PM

That was against the COLTS though right?

Can't deny how great that was that the guy running couldn't avoid BIG BEN.

also that kick by GOAT VANDERJAGT

JM · 12-02-2012, 07:53 PM

Ya they would have lost that game if that tackle didn't happen.

You can list all the QBs you want UDFK and I'll probably disagree with a certain number of them and a certain number will probably you being a fool. OH WELL.

**Red Viper** · 12-02-2012, 07:58 PM

And you will disagree with a certain number of them because you're as much of a biased homer as the rest of you. It really doesn't mean much. You value him more because he's on your team.

JM · 12-02-2012, 08:01 PM

Not really. I will disagree because I think you're wrong. People hate on him for stupid reasons. The guy was having an MVP caliber season this year but he's still meh to a lot of people. I really don't care. I can name NFL QBs better than him. There's really not many I'd rather have though. For a number of reasons.

Go ahead and list them though.