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Houston did completely shut down one of the best RBs in the game. They also KOed Cutler. Only giving up 6 on the road is pretty impressive. Elements helped out too though.

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I agree with the sentiment here, but neither team did what it takes to win a game. SF missed the FG and the Rams can't even get a play off before the clock ticks zero. What's worse is that they had a timeout. That's Garrett levels of failure right there. Rams also can't even line up properly before the ball is snapped. That's a junior high error.

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I agree with the sentiment here, but neither team did what it takes to win a game. SF missed the FG and the Rams can't even get a play off before the clock ticks zero. What's worse is that they had a timeout. That's Garrett levels of failure right there. Rams also can't even line up properly before the ball is snapped. That's a junior high error.
It should count as a loss for both teams considering how poorly they both played.

As for Chicago, I can blame the loss on the fact that Cutler was knocked out and didn't play the second half, but two things need to be addressed. One is backup Jason Campbell, the other is Cutler himself.

Jason Campbell is being paid $3.5 Million to be a backup QB that can make the save when Cutler is knocked out of a game, which has happened at least once in the last three years. Campbell comes in a delivers a horrible performance that did nothing to help. Campbell took no shots down field. He threw 3 yard dump passes most of the time with the exception of a high pass to the terrible TE. This guy was a starting QB for 2 teams and he didn't try to throw it down field to a Brandon Marshall covered by one CB. Newsflash Cambpell, Marshall can catch the ball and even made Kyle Orton and Chad Henne have good games. Throw him the ball. No professional team should spend over $2 Million on a QB that won't throw the ball more than 3 yards.

As for Jay Cutler, all I can say is what the hell. This isn't just last night, but the past few years in general. Jay's coach gets fired in Denver so he whines and demands a trade instead of meeting and teaming with Josh McDaniels. So he gets what he wants. Cutler then proceeds to have a bad season and claim his OC is bad. He gets what he wants and Mike Martz is hired. Martz removes Olsen from 70% of the offense and focuses on a system Jay wasn't comfortable in. On top of that, the offensive line can't handle the system, however Chicago makes it to the NFC Championship Game. The next year Jay gets hurt because of an interception he threw and a tackle he made poorly, injuring his thumb. So Jay gets his next wish and Martz retires. Now he gets first time OC Mike Tice. Then new GM brings in not just a number one WR, but one of Jay's best friends in Brandon Marshall. So now Jay Cutler has his BFF at WR, a slowly rebuilding line with Gabe Carimi, an arguably top 5 and paid RB in Forte, a top 5 defense that is setting records in defensive scoring, his Denver QB Coach, and a new OC that listens to him, and Cutler still can't get anything done on offense? What the hell man. He's got everything he needs to succeed. It's time to man up and turn it around Jay. It's time for the offense to step it up.

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To be completely fair to Campbell, it's not like he had been getting any practice time with the first team and knew what to do when he got out there. I'm sure he'll be fine with a week of practice.



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Campbell did look Marshall's way quite often. He even hit him on that deep pass that set them up for a TD only to falter and settle for a FG. I'm not saying Campbell is good, but Forte had less than 40 yds rushing. Houston totally shut him down. In a game where the ball is wet, you gotta be able to run the ball better than Chicago did. Of course, Houston had a lot to do with the Bears not getting much on the ground. My point is you shouldn't expect a QB like Campbell to be able to do much in the rain coming of the bench for his first game action in a pretty long time against a top defense. He's barely average in perfect weather and not rusty.

Also don't forget Marshall dropped a TD too.

As for Cutler, he's never impressed me. He makes stupid decisions at key moments (most stupid decisions become key moments). Not really talking about this game since I believe the INTs were caused mostly by the rain. Wet balls are not easy to throw. Plus I really want to punch Jay Cutler in the face. He's a really punchable face.


Also LOL some players on the Rams and Niners still didn't realize you can tie in the NFL. wtf

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The Fourth Quarter had 1 pass longer than 10 yards from Campbell, and it was incomplete. Practice or not, you can't have an entire quarter with no passes longer than 10 yards.


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1st and 10 at CHI 38 J.Campbell pass short right to B.Marshall to CHI 47 for 9 yards (G.Quin).
2nd and 1 at CHI 47 M.Bush right tackle to HST 33 for 20 yards (D.Manning; B.James).
1st and 10 at HOU 33 M.Bush right tackle to HST 30 for 3 yards (W.Mercilus).
2nd and 7 at HOU 30 J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to B.Marshall.
3rd and 7 at HOU 30 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to B.Marshall (J.Joseph).
4th and 7 at HOU 30 (Field Goal formation) R.Gould 48 yard field goal is No Good, Hit Left Upright, Center-P.Mannelly, Holder-A.Podlesh.
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1st and 10 at CHI 14 M.Forte left tackle to CHI 19 for 5 yards (T.Dobbins).
2nd and 5 at CHI 19 J.Campbell pass short left to B.Marshall to CHI 25 for 6 yards (K.Jackson). PENALTY on CHI-C.Rachal, Offensive Holding, 9 yards, enforced at CHI 19 - No Play.
2nd and 14 at CHI 10 J.Campbell pass short left to M.Spaeth to CHI 15 for 5 yards (T.Dobbins).
3rd and 9 at CHI 15 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to M.Forte.
4th and 9 at CHI 15 (Punt formation) A.Podlesh punts 36 yards to HST 49, Center-P.Mannelly, out of bounds.
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1st and 10 at CHI 25 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to K.Davis.
2nd and 10 at CHI 25 J.Campbell pass short right to M.Spaeth to CHI 24 for -1 yards (B.James).
3rd and 11 at CHI 24 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass incomplete deep middle to K.Davis. CHI-K.Davis was injured during the play. His return is Questionable.
4th and 11 at CHI 24 (Punt formation) A.Podlesh punts 43 yards to HST 33, Center-P.Mannelly, downed by CHI-E.Weems.
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1st and 10 at CHI 38 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass short left to M.Forte to CHI 35 for -3 yards (C.Barwin).
2nd and 13 at CHI 35 (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Campbell pass short left to D.Hester to CHI 42 for 7 yards (B.McCain). PENALTY on CHI-G.Carimi, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at CHI 35 - No Play.
2nd and 23 at CHI 25 (Shotgun) J.Campbell pass short left to K.Adams to CHI 32 for 7 yards (G.Quin; B.James).
3rd and 16 at CHI 32 (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Campbell pass short middle to B.Marshall to CHI 40 for 8 yards (C.Barwin).
4th and 8 at CHI 40 (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to M.Forte.
Also, what I meant Magic was that Cutler has everything physically around him for a QB to succeed. It's up to Cutler to be better.

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All that is interesting but it doesn't actually matter.

Marshall still drooped a TD. He catches that, they might have won. It's not all Campbell's fault. Where is Earl Bennett btw? Does he even play? Also, Hester had that long catch and run but it was called back for a penalty. Chicago needs more than just one good WR. They have no TE and their other receiving options outside of Forte are pretty bad.

And it wasn't like Scaub was Johnny Unitas out there. That was an ugly game for both offenses.

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