[Notorious]

Coach B fined $50,000, no suspension.

[SoupBro]

Fuck I should have brought my radio to listen to weei at work. worst calls for me was the holding on Gronk where after the replay Al Michaels and Chris were like where was the hold. It was nowhere to be seen. And that PI call on Julian. Pats hurt themselves with some stupid playcalling at times but the refs helped them Lose that game. The pass defense was a major part. once they had to rely on there D to win I was worried. Did they sack Flacco at all.

Also forgot that play where Ray Lewis basically tackled Gronk when he was running a route and nothing was called.

[Notorious]

Once and I think the refs called it back on penalties.

The Patriots pass defense has it's moments but just like last season they just can't seem to cover deep passes which is ultimately why we lost the game.

Also that tackling when Dennis Pitta scored that touchdown might be the worst I've ever seen from a pro defensive player.

Also after last night's game, the Pats drop from #2 overall defense to #14, pass defense goes from top 10 to #24, but at least the run defense is still top 10.

I knew the great defensive numbers wouldn't last, but I thought we would at least make it to week 5

[Christian Louboutin]

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by MrMister

PI is always controversial. I don't think we should ever cite instances of this.

I'm gonna be controversial myself and say these guys haven't done a bad job considering where they've come from. HOWEVER, they never should've been put here in the first place. If you're a multi-billion dollar business, fucking pay your employees if they want a raise and have contributed to the well being of the business. Referees, though we bitch about them, do really well and really have contributed to the NFL's prosperity. It's absurd.

In other words I agree with what I think is your overall sentiment. This is the NFL's fault, not the replacement refs themselves.

I read a pretty good article a while back breaking down what's on the table here during these negotiations. Surprisingly, the NFLRA wants double the increase what the NFL is offering, but that's not the main issue at point. Apparently, the NFLRA is willing to sacrifice such a huge raise for the issues that follow.

The two big issues are the NFL wanting to expand their official referee crews from 17 to 20 which would give each referee crew 2 bye weeks during the season instead of 1, which means two less checks per year/per ref. Also, the referee's want a 401k for retirement. It might just be me, but that is absurd considering they work regular jobs and then referee on the weekends 1 day a week 6 months out of the year.

[Aid180]

You know the referee situation is bad when WWE makes fun of it while it's relevant.

[Notorious]

Seattle defense is owning Rodgers.

[Dr. Jones]

7 sacks already. Seahawks are just feasting on GBs o line.

[TomahawkJock]

Chiefs/Saints game had more challenges and ref reviews in one game that I had ever seen.

[MrMister]

This one is up there with one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen from a defensive line. It's not helping that the Packers are arrogantly still calling plays with deep routes.