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NFL Thread: RAVENS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

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Preseason cranks up tomorrow and that means we're less than a month from games that count.

This is the best time of year.
 
#513 ·
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I believe Franchise Tagged players can be traded if they sign a new deal at their new location. I'm not absolutely positive on that though. Either that or they can be traded like any other guy on a one year deal.

Mike Wallace is also coming back to the Steelers this weekend.
 
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Whether he is traded or not, this holdout will most likely not end until after week 1. Maybe later. I have to agree with Jacksonville over MJD on this one. Jacksonville paid MJD a huge frontloaded contract 3 years ago and MJD still has 2 years left on his contract. Jacksonville put their faith in MJD to produce and he did, but now he wants more. Sure MJD was the top runner last year, but I doubt he would have been if it wasn't for those unfortunate injuries to DMC, Fred Jackson, and Matt Forte.
 
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No broken bones for Michael Vick? Damn it. Hopefully next time.
And why do you want him to get injured?
 
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I was listening to a lot of the discussion on ESPN about whether 4 preseason games are too much or not and it is quite interesting. Media guys like Stephen A Smith, Skip Bayless, and others believe that preseason games are a waste of time and lead to too many injuries to be worth it. One key point Skip made was that College and High School players don't need warm up games while 26 year old and older guys do.

The other side of the argument on ESPN came from former players who felt they would not have had a career if it were not for those games. The preseason games were the 4th string's Super Bowl. Many undrafted guys would not have had a chance if it weren't for those games. Guys like Arian Foster, Victor Cruz, Antonio Brown, and others might have been cut if they didn't get their preseason chance.

So are 4 preseason games too much?
 
#532 ·
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Wait so they're arguing that since college and high school players don't have warm up games that professionals shouldn't either? If so...dumb.

The NFL is vastly, exponentially more complex than the college and high school games. All those moving parts need warm up games for sure. Also college and high school teams do have warm up games in the form of scrimmages. Anyway, terrible argument if that's what they're saying.

Pre season is needed, but 4 is probably too much. Cut it by one and see how it goes. As for injuries, they can happen anytime and anywhere on the field whether it's in a live game, an exhibition, or during practice.
 
#533 ·
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They argued on First Take that there should be 2 or fewer preseason games. That was one of their agreements that College teams don't need it and they are 18-22. Other media outlets and bloggers comment on how 4 is two many and lead to too many injuries as well as robbing fans of the full enjoyment of the game for the price of a meaningful game.

I see where they are coming from, but I also agree with the former players that benefited from these meaningless matches. I feel that more teams should do joint practices like new England and New Orleans did earlier this preseason. That way teams can judge how their players do against another defense without all the punishment of a real game. Every team has at least 18 teams they don't see during the regular season, so I wouldn't mind 3 preseason games and a two team joint practice for every team.
 
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I don't like the argument that since college doesn't do it the NFL shouldn't. Again, the NFL game is a lot more complex. Yeah that's what practice is for, but a real game cannot be simulated easily.

The injuries argument holds more water with me. If they're gonna get injured, let's have it happen when it the game actually counts.
 
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