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Old 09-20-2012, 07:10 PM   #2061 (permalink)
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Yeah they would be among the best RB tandems but Foster/Tate are currently the best IMO.

Honestly, I never saw any of this coming with C.J. Spiller.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:31 PM   #2062 (permalink)
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Other teams hit just as hard as the Niners. The difference is that the Niners actually take people down with great tackling. They actually wrap people up.
Well, I would tend to agree with you here if it were not for the frequency that I've seen the 49ers defense do it compared to the other games I've watched thus far. It's not just great tackling, it's great gang tackling. They machine gun ball carriers and their team speed is phenomenal from the line, to the linebackers, to the secondary. Just first class from front to back.

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Also Harbaugh inherited this team.
Harbaugh inherited the players on this team. Make no mistake about it that the culture and the simple effectiveness of the 49ers as a group of players, as a team on the field and organization off of it has changed due to him. Let's not go pairing this guy with Jim Caldwell who was handed the keys to a Ferrari - with little to no changes made on his behalf. That's inheriting something. This was a 6-10 team and an organization that had been down for the better part of a decade with a few, but not many, redeeming qualities. If he inherited anything it was a down and out dynasty akin to inheriting a debt in the non-football world.

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I'm not sure he's gotten more out of most of these players than anyone else has.
So you claim that he inherits the team which went a combined 14-18 the two years prior, to include a 6-10 season the year prior, goes 14-4 with pretty much the team that he "inherited" and you're unsure that he's gotten more out of the players than the previous regime?

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Vernon Davis was great under other coaches.
Oh, sure. You can point out good players on bad teams throughout the league. Them being less productive, as productive, or more productive under a current regime than the past one is not a slight. Being a great coach is what you do with the average players on your team, in my opinion.

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The defense has been a top unit for a few years; the defensive line is the biggest improvement over the past two years.
Statistically. But I've watched them make the transition from a good defense to a ferocious one. I mean, what do you define "top unit" as really? They were 23rd in points and 13th in yards in 2008, 4th and 15th in 2009, and 16th and 13th in 2010. In 2011, they were 2nd in points and 4th in yards, only allowing a staggering, mind blowing total of 3 rushing touchdowns all regular season.

In addition to the addition of Aldon Smith in the 2011 draft; moving away from the line, I was really impressed with the progression of Ahmad Brooks.

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Frank Gore is the all time leading SF RB; ie he's been good for a long time.
Try Joe Perry.

This goes back to what I said about good players on bad teams.

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It's all about Alex Smith's play. He was the final cog to fit into place.
I agree that he was the final piece of the puzzle, a HUGE part of the turnaround and a serious keynote on Harbaugh's resume thus far, but to say it all falls on him is a little shortsighted, I think. They were up in every points/yards total on both offense and defense than the year prior and are as efficient as any team in the league. Alex Smith didn't force 36 turnovers last season. Their capacity for forcing turnovers last season was relatively prolific and surely had as much to do with their efficiency as Smith.

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Harbaugh clearly is a great QB coach/mentor.
Indeed. Great coach, period.
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This kid looks decent for a youngin'.
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I can't say I was buying the love for Carolina. Not in this game, but in general. Still at least another draft class away from being serious contenders.
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Triple G stop triple posting ffs. No one actually cares about your play by play so just edit your post.

@GlassBreaks. Yeah to that multi-part post. I didn't say Harbaugh inherited the team as if it was a bad thing, just stating a fact. He didn't build this team. He did vastly improve Alex Smith though. The QB is obviously the most important player on the team. Vastly improving the play at that position makes an enormous difference. So yeah, I'm not sure he's made Patrick Willis a better defender. I'm not sure he's made Frank Gore a better runner. I am sure he's made Alex Smith make better decisions with the football.

As for Gore being the all time leading Niner rusher...

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/...lltime-rushing

Yep GORE is at the top of that list.
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Well, I expected a closer game than what I'm seeing currently. Congrats to Barden and Brown for stepping up. And apparently a fumble keeps you in Coughlin's dog house for at least 3 games, even when the starting RB is out. Dammit Wilson.
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