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**Notorious** · 09-10-2012, 10:52 PM

Obviously Jake Delhomme.

**Genesis 1.0** · 09-10-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Obviously Jake Delhomme.

It's possible, there's a lot of people in NC that still love the guy but I don't think WWF is one.

**WWF** · 09-10-2012, 10:55 PM

Moose is one, yeah. Sam Mills was an amazing guy, as well. Shame I wasn't able to see him play. He was the heart and soul of the original Panthers team, and died of cancer not that long ago. He's the only player in the Panthers' Ring of Honor, has a statue outside of Bank of America Stadium, and he created the team's motto during his bout with Cancer, "Keep Pounding". Shame he passed. I still love Delhomme, too. I don't care if he was terrible at the end of his career, he did so much for the team.

Edit: Forgot to mention that Mills coached in Carolina for years after he retired, up until '04, the year before he died.

**Genesis 1.0** · 09-10-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WWF

Moose is one, yeah. Sam Mills was an amazing guy, as well. Shame I wasn't able to see him play. He was the heart and soul of the original Panthers team, and died of cancer not that long ago. He's the only player in the Panthers' Ring of Honor, has a statue outside of Bank of America Stadium, and he created the team's motto during his bout with Cancer, "Keep Pounding". Shame he passed. I still love Delhomme, too. I don't care if he was terrible at the end of his career, he did so much for the team.

Muhammad was one of those guys that was just class throughout his career, can't fault that. Mills was the definition of motor on the field & a powerful personality off it.

When it comes down to it, the Panthers began in '95 & the Ravens in '96, so of course you hate us. With only a year's difference, a year in your favor, we're clearly the superior franchise.

**WWF** · 09-10-2012, 11:04 PM

I suppose so. Thankfully most of my friends are Dolphins fans, and they've been fucking terrible since '95, so that can't talk shit.

**Genesis 1.0** · 09-10-2012, 11:14 PM

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I suppose so. Thankfully most of my friends are Dolphins fans, and they've been fucking terrible since '95, so that can't talk shit.

I don't understand the Dolphins at all. Their descent into madness has been absolute, the few fleeting moments where there's been a really good player just highlights how bad the rest of the entire franchise is, Management down. It does raise my appreciation for Marino even further.

On a side note, this Raiders / Chargers game is kind of tedious. It's not one of those low scoring games where it's a good, gritty, defensive struggle. It's just ugly.

**MrMister** · 09-11-2012, 01:05 PM

Raiders got nothing on offense. They're the West Coast Browns. With no other threats, it's down to McFadden, and as good as he is, he's not Barry Sanders. Denarius Moore is supposed to be good and I think he will be, but I'm not sure he's enough. Raiders also don't have a backup deep snapper.

Bears v Packers in two days.

Jobberwacky · 09-11-2012, 04:27 PM

Just realized BBC are showing MNF. I've watched plenty of random matches over the years growing up, and usually watch the SB final, but just as much for the HT show, so, i'm still learning the game. The main thing i wanted to ask you guys for is some help with picking a team? Any ideas how i should choose one?

**Notorious** · 09-11-2012, 04:30 PM

Depends what kind of team you're looking for.

If you want to choose a defensive-minded team you could go with 49ers, Texans, Ravens, Giants, Steelers or Bears.

If you want to choose a team with a fast-paced, high powered offense you could go with a team like the Patriots, Packers or Saints.

If you want to choose a team made up of young players on the rise, you could pick a team like the Bengals, Redskins, Panthers, Seahawks.

All depends on your preference.

Sarcasm1 · 09-11-2012, 04:42 PM

Tebowing is so 2011. #Griffining 2012.