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**MrMister** · 09-07-2012, 12:40 AM

kobra do you think the Skins can win in the Superdome?

**CamillePunk** · 09-07-2012, 12:54 AM

Dallas absolutely will win the East. Eagles' dream team will fall apart as usual, Archie III will go through growing pains, and the Giants will have a hangover year.

kobra860 · 09-07-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMister

kobra do you think the Skins can win in the Superdome?

Since I'm a huge fan I want to say yes but the Saints have a lot to prove and the bounty scandal may motivate the team just like Spygate did for the Patriots. It's hard to say.

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk

Dallas absolutely will win the East. Eagles' dream team will fall apart as usual, Archie III will go through growing pains, and the Giants will have a hangover year.

The Cowboys have to worry about Witten not being 100%, a below average O-Line, a defense that's been slipping over the last couple of years, and receivers who either are injury prone or total idiots off the field. They're not winning the East. The Cowboys always fold under pressure (especially Romo) and Jerry Jones telling the team that they're running out of time won't help them.

**WOOLCUNT** · 09-07-2012, 01:28 AM

if their secondary is better then they have a great shot at winning the division

**Red Viper** · 09-07-2012, 01:30 AM

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Yeah that was just a joke question man. Come on.

UDFK, do you think Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer?

can't accurately judge a career that isn't over.

but yeah, I could see him getting in. probably not as a first ballot HOF, but eventually he would get in.

**MrMister** · 09-07-2012, 01:40 AM

Claiborne played pretty well in his first game. He was on Nicks mostly and did a good job. Carr seems to be massive upgrade as well at CB. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid just yet since it's only been one game, and Dallas has been really bad in the secondary these past few years, but the Cowboys defense could be vastly improved.

The major problem seems to be the offensive line. Murray found little daylight; that 48 yarder was all Murray. I will say if Murray goes down, this team is in deep shit offensively. Murray is a huge difference maker for Dallas. Felix Jones can't do it. Maybe Tanner can, but he's totally unknown.

As for WASH at NO, I like Griffin a ton despite hating the Skins. Even with that loud as hell crowd he's got a shot. It's not like he hasn't played before loud crowds before in Norman and Austin and Lubbock and College Station. Saints offense is too much though. Since I think it'll be high scoring it'll end up 17-14 with Hartley hitting a game winner.

You can't accurately judge anything involving the FUTURE 100%. No need to state the obvious. So you think he's a HoF'er. Can't say I disagree. He'd have to fall of a cliff statistically at this point and that's probably not happening.

**WOOLCUNT** · 09-07-2012, 02:12 AM

I think that Eli will be in the Hall of Fame unless he totally stinks it up.

**Aid180** · 09-07-2012, 02:42 PM

Players suspended for their roles in the Saints' 2009-2011 Bounty Scandal have had their bans overturned on appeal.

**Notorious** · 09-07-2012, 02:42 PM

So Vilma's back?

**Aid180** · 09-07-2012, 02:44 PM

Yup. Vilma is back and will play Sunday.

EDIT: It seems Vilma's is a little more complicated. Everyone else suspended can play, but it seems Vilma will only get payed.

EDIT@: Ok, Vilma is physically allowed to play, but he's been away from the team longer than Will Smith, so Vilma may not be in the shape to play.