JOAL.com

half our squad seems to be there for no other reason than to pad out the numbers of homegrown english stars

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Abk™

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Joel

We have eight homegrown players in the first team squad, so it's all good. I think we only have one club trained player though and we need four.

Kiz

just saw that here bayern are 13.25 to win the cl, whacked some money on that, as well as villa as top scorer at 11.50

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SOON

HeartBreak&Triumph

Messi is 2.60 at top scorer here, the lowest I've seen for a competition goalscorer in a while.
Madrid is 1.75 to win their group and Zenit are 3.50, will put some money on these.

Nige™

That's a great price for Messi, and if you look at their group he's got a great chance of racking up some goals early. Ronaldo in his upset state probably won't be able to match him with games against City, and to a lesser extent, Dortmund. They were pretty shocking in the Champions League last year and they've lost a couple of players like Kagawa. Reus has come in but I don't see them being an improvement on last season's team and threatening Real or City.

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Abk™

Watch Messi rack up 20 goals in the group stages alone...

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sliplink

Dortmund lost Kagawa out of the first team. Every other player that left was filling mass. Barrios was the MVP for us 2 years ago, but lost his spot last season. Every Dortmund was very happy to see we got so much money for him (8,5 mio €), since he wasn't going to play anyway. We then baught a back-up for Lewandowski for 5,5 mio called Schieber who is a very promising talent and played very good in Nürnberg.

Reus compensates Kagawa and maybe gives our game another edge, so we'll see, if we can be a threat to City and Real. If we want to stand any chance we have to win against Ajax first anyways. For me, they are a club who only lives from his former achievments. Looking at their squad the only player I recognize is Babel, who had horrible 1,5 years in Hoffenheim. But I guess you don't get Dutch Champion by luck.

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Best FUCKING move!!

Renegade™

Ajax have some good players, not just Babel. Sigurdsson is a decent young striker with time, same for Eriksen who's already attracting rumours of bids by Man Utd etc he's one of the most saught after attacking mids in the world. Alderweireld (sp?) is a good CB too. They've lost some good players (most of their backline in Van der Wiel/Anita/Vertonghen) this transfer window just passed, but you can never count them out.

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HeartBreak&Triumph

I don't see how Valencia can get anything in Munich but you never know, hopefully we win this so we can focus on the league.