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**Medo** · 11-20-2012, 05:42 PM

Don't really care about our lost today since we already qualified.

Juvy

**JOAL.com** · 11-20-2012, 05:42 PM

the real mistake was letting juve dominate the midfield

unlike barca, juve arent afraid to pull the trigger outside the box. note thats how the first two goals were scored

oscar was the worst of the night? what were you smoking? did you see that run he made at the start almost beating the entire team?

id argue the only real problem was all the pressure put on 3 men to score when they arent strikers, and hoofing the ball to nobody

Henry Hill · 11-20-2012, 05:44 PM

Alright cheers guys. Juve would be silly to try and play for a draw against Shaktar though as they look like a team who score from nowhere for fun. Hopefully they go for it.

@Redead - Mata and Hazard just weren't very effective tonight. Oscar was brilliant for the most part. As was Ramires.

**JOAL.com** · 11-20-2012, 05:45 PM

nah, shakhtar are good honest lads. like adriano

juve can trust them to grind out a draw.....

Henry Hill · 11-20-2012, 05:50 PM

If it's any consolation Pirlo has promised a Balotelli hairstyle if Juve win the champions league this season. For such a serious looking guy he seems to have quite the comical edge to him.

**Irish Jet** · 11-20-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T-C

David Luiz doesn't even have the nous for the holding role in midfield.

To be fair Phil Jones had the exact same issue in that role. Luiz would get carried away with the fact that he's further forward and just lose it. Heck, Torres isn't doing anything, might as well throw him up front.

**Tyler Durden** · 11-20-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Redead

best part of the game was long balling it to the ghost of drogba

boy i sure look stupid now.

also, readhed?

Ahh Drogba.

DX-HHH-XD · 11-20-2012, 06:14 PM

Meh, the final will fall in an odd-numbered year so it pretty much means that Utd will job to Barca again anyway.

**JOAL.com** · 11-20-2012, 06:17 PM

we need a striker, pure and simple

expecting mata, oscar and hazard to create AND shoot is just being unrealistic. They can shoot but it shouldnt be their job

We need a striker, preferably a tall one who can meet our crosses and long ball. so basically we need 2009 drogba

**Kiz** · 11-20-2012, 06:21 PM

I hope we take europa seriously. it can improve our coefficient massively. atletico earned more points than barca and bayern from their run iirc. very english mentality to look down upon it when winning/making the final would be huge