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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Juve moved the ball better, but I don't think they outplayed us. They did create better opportunities though.

I won't say we were lucky to draw either. Mata should have made it 3-1 and ended the game. They got the equaliser from ridiculous sequences of plays from us. Had Mikel not gave the ball away and Terry not had a moment of retardation, we would have been saying Juve have a lot to do now and Chelsea are set up nicely to advance.

I think we can get something in Donetsk. Shakhtar are a very good team. Make no mistake about it. But they aren't as good as they were a few years ago. We're not consistently good, but on our day we're better than them. Getting something away at Juve will be hard. But we almost blew them away at the start of the game. That game doesn'y occur until November, so I wont thinkmuch about it right now.

Torres as a deeper player? I prefer Torres not playing, tbh. A terrible player by all means.

@Redead: Lampard's closing for the Vidal goal was absolutely disgusting. Vidal barely did anything to get by him. What has happened to you, Frank Lampard?
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Yeah well, Sturridge is out injured

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Outplayed?

The only goals that went in against us, were because of two mistakes, and we were outplayed?

Honestly, considering our midfield is fucking Mikel and Lampard and their's is considered one of the best on earth, I'd we we did rather well

Possession was 50-50, however constant pressure and interceptions kept Juve's usually fantastic passing rates rather low. Oscar completely shut down Pirlo, which was his job. Juve only had a 74% pass completion rate, and considering how they usually monopolise both possession and passing (63% and 85% respectively), I think we did pretty good.

When Oscar was on pre subs I think Juve struggled getting the ball around, certainly more than us. We had long spells of possession, good attacks, tons of crossing and slipping the ball into the box, and it was only when the subs came on that Juve suddenly started really threatening, I dont have all the stats but thats what i saw from that game. If anything Vidal's goal came against the run of play

If it wasnt for one misplaced pass and lampard not closing down vidal fast enough, we'd be having a completely different conversation right now.

oh and you wanna talk bias, Souness that bastard wouldnt shut up about how Oscar's second goal was luck
Oh come on now. If not for the woodwork saving you, Oscars first goal taking a big deflection and him pulling out a goal from nothing we'd be having a completely different conversation right now.

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

I can't believe we spent 50m on that hack. I was excited, so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite. But I don't get paid the big bucks to identify good targets!

Could have had a year earlier when he was basically saying "please buy me". A very sad story

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Oh come on now. If not for the woodwork saving you, Oscars first goal taking a big deflection and him pulling out a goal from nothing we'd be having a completely different conversation right now.
So you're comparing something that should never happen in professional football to things that happen in nearly every game?

Good to know.
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We could have had Aguero or Falcao. Now we're stuck with Torres. Forever. And ever. I dont think he minds though, he's still raking in the wages and trophies in a club and international level somehow

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if it wasnt for a wet patch of grass in russia we'd be having a VERY different conversation by now

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So you're comparing something that should never happen in professional football to things that happen in nearly every game?

Good to know.
So you're saying that misplaced passes leading to goals and players not closing down the opposition don't happen in nearly every game? Coz they do actually.

Good to know tho

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Juve moved the ball better, but I don't think they outplayed us. They did create better opportunities though.

I won't say we were lucky to draw either. Mata should have made it 3-1 and ended the game. They got the equaliser from ridiculous sequences of plays from us. Had Mikel not gave the ball away and Terry not had a moment of retardation, we would have been saying Juve have a lot to do now and Chelsea are set up nicely to advance.

I think we can get something in Donetsk. Shakhtar are a very good team. Make no mistake about it. But they aren't as good as they were a few years ago. We're not consistently good, but on our day we're better than them. Getting something away at Juve will be hard. But we almost blew them away at the start of the game. That game doesn'y occur until November, so I wont thinkmuch about it right now.

Torres as a deeper player? I prefer Torres not playing, tbh. A terrible player by all means.

@Redead: Lampard's closing for the Vidal goal was absolutely disgusting. Vidal barely did anything to get by him. What has happened to you, Frank Lampard?
What happened to Frank is really simple, he got old

There is no shame in it, but Frank is unwilling to face it. People get old. Its impossible for him to keep pushing himself like for 90 minutes twice a week. Hell even Pirlo has less game and he basically has his teammates do all the work for him except for the playmaking. But Frank still thinks he's in his golden age

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So you're saying that misplaced passes leading to goals and players not closing down the opposition don't happen in nearly every game? Coz they do actually.

Good to know tho
My issue is with the misplaced pass. Not the closing down. That was just shit and sums up past it Lampard.

But no professional playing in the Champions League should misplace a pass as Mikel did. I know it's Mikel, but fuck.
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Suso and Assaidi are starting

Lets go smack these young boys

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