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post #811 of 9149 (permalink) Old 09-19-2012, 07:59 PM
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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

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LOL at people saying Nani was shit, he was one of our better players or at least he wasn't one of the worst, the penalty aside and even that wasn't as bad as people make out. An easy scapegoat - Always gets singled out when others get a pass. Had he been half as wasteful as Valencia was tonight he'd been taking even more scrutiny. RVP was even worse, his first touch was so bad it was incredible. Nani set up two clear cut chances and was the only person who looked on Kagawa's wavelength with short passing, some of their link up play was just superb. The guy gets so much hate it's unreal, he's despised by everyone.
I'm not saying this to be argumentative but you really are the only person I've seen/heard say that.
Besides Evra he was the worst on the pitch for United, he was extremely wasteful, went down FAR too easily when in good positions, could have gotten himself sent off for that 'the balls flat' bullshit he pulled. He was however the only one on the night comfortable with passing to Kagawa in tight spaces.

However I do agree with what you said, he's swiftly followed by Robin 'Are you sure you're dutch with that first touch?' Van Persie, and Tony 'I didn't want to pick a cross tonight' V.

All in all we should have scored a lot lot more.


Did anyone else find Niall Quinn to be an annoying cunt throughout the game?

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post #812 of 9149 (permalink) Old 09-19-2012, 09:46 PM
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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Nani was shit? Fuck off. If it wasn't shit finishing from other players, he would have ended up with around 4 assists. The penalty was woeful, but otherwise, he was decent. Carrick was motm, Vidic was decent after the early penalty scare and De Gea saved our asses with that double save. RVP was quiet.

Quinn was alright, he can be annoying but he was grand last night.

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

casillas going ballistic when penaldo scores the winner vs us


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I'm not saying this to be argumentative but you really are the only person I've seen/heard say that.
Besides Evra he was the worst on the pitch for United, he was extremely wasteful, went down FAR too easily when in good positions, could have gotten himself sent off for that 'the balls flat' bullshit he pulled. He was however the only one on the night comfortable with passing to Kagawa in tight spaces.

However I do agree with what you said, he's swiftly followed by Robin 'Are you sure you're dutch with that first touch?' Van Persie, and Tony 'I didn't want to pick a cross tonight' V.

All in all we should have scored a lot lot more.


Did anyone else find Niall Quinn to be an annoying cunt throughout the game?
I'm not the only person to say that, if you think I am, you haven't looked very far.

He wasn't even close to the worst player on the pitch. He actually a lot of positive things, he was playing some incredible passes in dangerous areas, particularly with Kagawa. How was that as bad as Valencia beating his man before putting his crosses out for throw ins, or RVP having the first touch of a rapist (Which cost us about 2 goals).

He also should have had a penalty before that Gala counter attack, he was caught.

I hate Quinn. He quite clearly despises United, although that's been obvious for a while.

Edit: Didn't see you acknowledged RVP and Valencia. Valencia just misses Rooney IMO, they're homeboys.
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I agree and disagree with the points made about Nani. I am one of those who thought he was shocking last night but I do agree he had a few brilliant moments. For example, the through ball to Hernandez and some nice passing and link up play with Kagawa and Evra. However, for the entire 90 minutes as a whole, I thought he was poor and very sloppy at times. Kept losing the ball, made some bad passes, which allowed Galatasaray to counter attack, kept slowing down the play, took forever to decide when to shoot, which would lead to him losing the ball again and was just very annoying to watch. He would suck for 15 minutes and then have a couple of minutes of brilliance and then go back to being abysmal. He should have also taken on Eboue more.

RVP did hold the ball well at times but his first touch was poor at times. Valencia was hit and miss for me first half but improved in the second. Still, not his best game and he was guilty of giving the ball away at times and made some terrible crosses. When he did deliver a good cross, no one was there in the box.

Still, a win is a win.




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casillas going ballistic when penaldo scores the winner vs us

Probably pissed he let 2 goals go in ahah
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Nani was shit? Fuck off. If it wasn't shit finishing from other players, he would have ended up with around 4 assists. The penalty was woeful, but otherwise, he was decent.
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Furthest I'd go is to say he wasn't the worst player. He certainly wasn't good however.

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Never been offended by someone's commentary until last night. It was bad last season when he was he blatantly cheering City on against Newcastle and QPR but last nights game took it another step. Blatant bias against United and refused to give them any credit when he could get away with it.

Think people are being over critical of our performance last night. Just a touch more clinical in front of goal and it could have been 3 or 4-0 very easily. Thought we always looked like creating something going forward and could easily outscore them if need be. Galatasary only had a few clear cut chances at goal. Hit the post twice by creating something out of nothing and had created two other good chances for themselves. Vidic and Evans looked strong at the back which was good and nice to keep back to back clean sheets.

Nani's seriously pissing me off now. I wouldn't mind it so much if he was just a poor player but he's not and he had moments where he proved that last night. For the majority though he was really poor. Poor attitude on the pitch, gives the ball away way too easily, does way too much silly stuff. Penalty topped it all off for him. He'll be gone within the next 12 months for sure.

RVP seems to be struggling to really gel with the team. Moves seem to break down or lose their momentum when they come to him. Hopefully it doesn't take him too long. Kagawa just oozing class again. Can't say the same about him not gelling with the team. Need to keep playing Chicarito until he finds his scoring touch again. Movement is there and he's creating plenty of chances for himself. Final touch is just missing.

Carrick with dat composure

Watched the Chelsea/Juve match straight after. Really good match. Chelsea got outplayed tbh. I'd hate to be a Chelsea fan with Mikel/Lampard and Terry/Luiz guarding the middle of the pitch. Just no presence in the middle against the big teams and they're gonna struggle to take anything from the big teams until they fix that. Lucky to get a point I thought bar a moment of sheer class from Oscar. Big fan of his so I'm glad he's been able to do something like that early on to shake any doubters off his back, even if he has a slow start in the league now. Juve looked really fucking good and are strong dark horses to win the whole thing imo.

Chelsea fans thoughts on being able to get more out of Torres playing him deeper? Like in the front 3 behind the striker with Hazard and Mata. He seems to drop deep there all the time anywhere and doesn't offer any killer instinct up top anymore. Obviously there's no alternative to put up top but if their was.

Said it as more of an out there prediction before the draw but I really do think Chelsea could struggle to get out of that group. Don't see them getting anything away vs Juve or Donetsk. 6 points against the Danes for all 3 teams is pretty much a given I reckon. That'd give them 7 points meaning they have to beat Donetsk at home really and hope Juve don't drop points to them.

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Outplayed?

The only goals that went in against us, were because of two mistakes, and we were outplayed?

Honestly, considering our midfield is fucking Mikel and Lampard and their's is considered one of the best on earth, I'd we we did rather well

Possession was 50-50, however constant pressure and interceptions kept Juve's usually fantastic passing rates rather low. Oscar completely shut down Pirlo, which was his job. Juve only had a 74% pass completion rate, and considering how they usually monopolise both possession and passing (63% and 85% respectively), I think we did pretty good.

When Oscar was on pre subs I think Juve struggled getting the ball around, certainly more than us. We had long spells of possession, good attacks, tons of crossing and slipping the ball into the box, and it was only when the subs came on that Juve suddenly started really threatening, I dont have all the stats but thats what i saw from that game. If anything Vidal's goal came against the run of play

If it wasnt for one misplaced pass and lampard not closing down vidal fast enough, we'd be having a completely different conversation right now.

oh and you wanna talk bias, Souness that bastard wouldnt shut up about how Oscar's second goal was luck


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