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Old 04-16-2013, 11:51 AM   #6831 (permalink)
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I've been thinking recently on how they can make the Europa League serious again, I mean the UEFA Cup was prestigious whatever way you look at it. So I was thinking ways of improving the Europa League:

First and foremost, I think abolish the group format. Personally I think it takes away the excitement of cup ties and it drags the competition out needlessly, I mean it takes about six games each to reduce the number of teams by half, rather than 2 games as is the case in a knock out format.

Next step for me would be to reduce the number of teams that play in the competition. At the moment 48 teams play in it, which of course means the likes of Israeli cup winners, Slovenian Champions, 4th-placed Cypriots and 6th-placed Ukrainians all get involved when they are all more than likely to finish bottom of a group in that format.

Probably one of the most important. Stop the teams who go out of the Champions League group stages from entering the Europa League, as simple as that. I have no doubt that UEFA thought this would add quality to the competition but personally I think this just reinforces then notion that the Champions League is stronger than the Europa League, and I imagine that the drop outs probably don't even want to be in the competition.

Another idea I like is that they should give the Europa League winner a spot in the Champions League group stages. I think that certainly gives it some prestige and will make teams to compete for it. The Europa League is never going to be as popular as the Champions League, so UEFA should stop trying to make it a like-for-like copy of the Champions League. A normal cup competition with less teams and a bigger prize would make it better quality, more passionate and exciting and less of a drain on team's squads, for example you'd only have to win 9 games to win the cup.


End of the day, the Champions League is stronger. Agree with your points though. Especially about the Champions League teams not entering and that less teams should be in it. I mean the group stages goes all the way up to Group L? That's daft.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:04 PM   #6832 (permalink)
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I don't see the problem with having a massive Europa League. It helps fund some other clubs in worse off leagues, like Romania, Belarus, Czech Republic, give them all a little bit of the UEFA gold pot. I do think they should give a little bit more cash as incentives to enter the Europa League though, since teams from Holland, Portugal, Italy are starting to un-offically boycott it to help their fixtures.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:05 PM   #6833 (permalink)
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Champions League needs to be less teams too. That alone would make the quality in the Europa League stronger. Teams that finish 3rd in some minor league shouldn't be in a Champions League. Ideally I'd have no more than 16 teams in the Champions League and make the Europa stronger. I think everyone would agree on letting the Europa winners in next seasons Champions League too. I'd also make the Champions League an actual league over the course of a season and Europa all knockout.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:18 PM   #6834 (permalink)
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The last part is an intresting suggestion seabs, wouldn't mind it tbh a 16 team CL league? obviously playing the likes of city another couple of times isn't ideal to me but it would make it more intresting.
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Might end up being the first step towards a breakaway to form some kind of European Super league though
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:22 PM   #6836 (permalink)
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Might end up being the first step towards a breakaway to form some kind of European Super league though
Might give liverpool a chance of winning something if the likes of united, city and chelsea breakaway.
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Cutting down numbers isn't very good business. And, it alienates a big number of countries, fans and viewers. I think the current format is perfect. @Seabs, when you said there are lesser countries with 3 CL entrants, France/Italy/Russia are the only ones that come to mind, and none of them are very lesser. Then it's Turkey, Portugal, Holland, Ukraine with 2.

But yeah, current format is fine. If the pot of teams is smaller, which having the same pot of cash, it will create a massive gulf in revenue in most leagues.
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Default Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread - It Just Got Mythical

I wouldn't bank on it

Anyways, I'm sure Liverpool would be able to sneak their way into any sort of SuperLeague due to that global fanbase
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I most definately agree on the winners of the Europa League should get automatic Champions League group stages spot. Therefore it would make the competition more prestigious.

Teams are more concentrated on finishing 4th (in the top 3 leagues) than winning a trophy in the Europa League. Adding that reward for winning it would mean that people take it more seriously and would want to win it more.
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I most definately agree on the winners of the Europa League should get automatic Champions League group stages spot. Therefore it would make the competition more prestigious.

Teams are more concentrated on finishing 4th (in the top 3 leagues) than winning a trophy in the Europa League. Adding that reward for winning it would mean that people take it more seriously and would want to win it more.
Spot on here, i'm guessing though if that rule came into play would the runners up get a CL place if the winners had already qualified?
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