Not sure I'd say the Ultras get 'twatted' by English support a lot of the time. Most incidents are usually isolated with the italians deliberately singling out smaller pockets of English fans. Roma, Lazio and Napoli are pretty much the worst offenders historically for it. I recall loads of United saying when they first played there in 06/07 it was mayhem on the bridge with fighting breaking out and the Roma Ultras having an assortment of knives (though that should be taken with a pinch of salt, Cass Pennant comes to mind).
Manchester on the day of the return game was something else though. Pretty sure people who hadn't set foot near Old Trafford in years were out looking for Italians. Sadly this all stems from the reputation of English supports smashing up places in Europe back in the 70s and 80s as well as a lot of the european ultras being fucking numpties.
Probably right, just going on a couple stories i've heard but unless you're there i suppose who the fuck knows because as you say alot of it's isolated and some of it does not get reported.
Last edited by Liam Miller; 11-22-2012 at 02:34 PM.
Probably right, just going on a couple stories i've heard but unless you're there i suppose woh the fuck knows because as you say alot of it's isolated and some of it does not get reported.
Exactly, I'm only going off of what I've heard myself from people who've gone abroad. The vast majority of stories seem to involve small groups of English fans being targeted in pubs/danger areas by slightly bigger groups of Ultras armed with knives. United, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Arsenal, Chelsea, City and I think Liverpool have all had bother in Europe post 2000 in different countries.
I've literally just posted in the other thread how we didn't a striker, and the other position we didn't to cover was in goal. Friedel was a legend for us but we've got Robbo and Jake Kean is a great young keeper who's already been out on loan and got significant experience. Besides it's the Championship. I could go in net and do alright!
Rumours that I have been hearing yes. He has been left in England today which has added fuel to it but he never usually plays in the Europa League anyway so it could just be that.