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post #2061 of 9149 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 06:29 PM
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Oh yeah him too but that's besides the point. You see the defensive industry of Juve and Shahktar, almost everyone in the team is somewhat capable of defending and pressuring players off the ball, triple marking a man if they have to(which they've actually done quite a lot). You don't see that too much with Chelsea.
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If Juve beat Shaktar are Chelsea out no matter what? What's it based on? Goal difference / Games against each other. I'm too lazy to look all this up. Anyway will be devestated if Juve don't get through now, how did they draw with the unspellables...

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Why didn't Chelsea replace Drogba again?
Because Torres was 'back'.

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I still think Chelsea will find a way through for what it's worth.
I also think we'll find a way to go through. We gotta believe!

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If Juve beat Shaktar are Chelsea out no matter what? What's it based on? Goal difference / Games against each other. I'm too lazy to look all this up. Anyway will be devestated if Juve don't get through now, how did they draw with the unspellables...
If Juventus beats Shakhtar and Chelsea beats Nordsjaelland, Juve will still have more points by virtue of going unbeaten/getting draws. If Shakhtar and Juve draws though, Chelsea would still have to beat Nordsjaelland by 8-9 goals to add to their goal difference tally. So yeah, Chelsea is fucked. Their only hope now is for Shakhtar to beat Juve.
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If Juve beat Shaktar are Chelsea out no matter what? What's it based on? Goal difference / Games against each other. I'm too lazy to look all this up. Anyway will be devestated if Juve don't get through now, how did they draw with the unspellables...
Think it's head-to-head. It's the only reason Shakhtar can be through for definite already with Chelsea able to catch them on every other count.
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If Juve beat Shaktar are Chelsea out no matter what? What's it based on? Goal difference / Games against each other. I'm too lazy to look all this up. Anyway will be devestated if Juve don't get through now, how did they draw with the unspellables...
The only results that will see Chelsea qualify are a Shakhtar win coupled with a Chelsea win.

Damning result. Especially as Juventus weren't great tonight, either.

Chelsea's only real hope is if Juventus decide to risk it all to top the group. Otherwise an extremely sedate draw will be played out under the guise of a competitive match.

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This game was the painful moment you realize that the Drogba/Lampard/Terry/Essien/Cole/Cech etc era is over, the dominant, intimidating, powerful team in the greatest period in club history is gone. There's no sign of any of it. What I see in the new Chelsea is "just another" ordinary team with young talented players. You took what symbolized Chelsea more than anything else and that's the force and character, it was really a sad sight to witness for me. You don't have the guy who can push these young talented players on his leadership, character and experience. Hazard, Mata and Oscar are like a Porsche without the engine. That's where a game-changer like Drogba shows just how much he meant to this team. There are no big game players and with the ridiculous formation RDM tried tonight, I don't see any pattern.

The most important thing right now is to bring a Top striker to replace the guy who IMO, ruined two years with his consistent, terrible form. Last year it was even more irritating because AVB had Didier sitting on the bench watching this failure continue to destroy any chance they had with his impotent attempts, while Didier most of the time saved something from the game in the second half. And just to throw it out there, Torres was mostly horrible in his last two years in Liverpool, something people forget when they talk about him "going back to himself". Besides that, Terry and Lampard need to come back ASAP to bring back some leadership and direction.

Chiellini was a beast, easily MOTM with Pirlo behind him. Worst performance will be Oscar IMO. Chelsea MOTM Ramires.

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Shame Nord(insert the rest) are such a pointless and shite team it would be much more intresting if chelsea had a tricky last game more drama anyhow.

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The last time a Chelsea manager lost away to West Brom and away to an Italian team in the CL within days of each other he was shown the door pretty sharpish.
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