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post #1461 of 9149 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 07:27 AM
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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

I often find the Premier League and La Liga have basically switched:

Back in 2004-2006 when Mourinho was at the healm of Chelsea it was pretty much their league to lose with the likes of United and Arsenal being good but terribly inconsistent and well off the pace. Even when United had a rebirth after the 2006 World Cup it still felt like Chelsea were the only side consistent enough to challenge them, although Arsenal the season after came close for a good 3/4s of the season.

Compare La Liga at the same time, and whilst Madrid or Barca generally were still favourites, Valencia especially were a threat for the title, and the likes of Deportivo, Sevilla, Atletico, Villareal really had a knack for gaining victories regularly over the top two. I mean these days either Madrid or Barca would be lucky to lose 3 games in the league, but only a few seasons back they could easily lose 8/9 games over the course of a season and whilst it was shocking on paper, the more you studied each season the less of an upset it became. I remember Deportivo had that astonishing stat in terms of consistent home wins over Real for a good 8/9 seasons straight, and Sevilla at home seemed to continually get the better of Barca and Madrid whilst Atletico had a particularly strong record at the Nou Camp with Torres in particular always causing Barca problems.

Now whilst the likes of Bilbao, Valencia and occasionally Atletico have their moments, the gap between the top two and the rest has really widened. Whereas in the Premier League the likes of Tottenham, Newcastle, Everton and City have all progressed and really started becoming bigger threats to the traditional trio of United, Arsenal and Liverpool. Both Arsenal and Liverpool are now in a bigger fight for European football when only a few short seasons ago it seemed inconcievable that they would be strongly threatened by one team let alone 3/4. Even the smaller clubs like Fulham, Villa and Stoke etc started to pick up more and more points against the bigger clubs on a regular basis, and there's really a feeling now in the Premier League that there really isn't an easy game: heck the rise of West Brom from a team who used to be up and down into a solid mid table/possibly higher club should be proof of how the Premier League has slowly become a more unstable league in terms of consistency.
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post #1462 of 9149 (permalink) Old 10-25-2012, 07:49 AM
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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

On our result:

Lol. Typical. Wenger plays Ramsey... F'kin Ramsey over and over and over and over again--when we've only won THREE f'kin league games with him starting in 2012. What the heck?

Why is Gervinho playing as a striker? Why is Ramsey--a CM--playing as a RF? Heck, why is he playing at ALL? Why isn't Wenger playing Podolski up top?

I'm not surprised by the result because the tactics have been so ridiculous.

I don't care for the CL honestly because we're awful in the CL. I'd hope we get knocked out instead, so that we could focus on the League. I wouldn't even mind EL because at least--we'd have a chance.

Onto City, sacking Mancini is the worst thing City could do now. So what if City aren't doing well in the CL! It took Chelsea 9 years after Papa Ramon came, so let's give City some time. Unless the replacement's name is Pep, Mancini is the right man for City.

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Man United got destroyed by Bilbao. Chelsea got destroyed by Falcao. It works both ways.
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Would definitely say the BPL Is better for sure. Much more competitive especially in the last few years. Hell last year alone was probably the best premier league season in history so many ups and downs it was unreal and the gap between the big clubs and the smaller clubs is getting smaller and smaller as the years go on. Honestly out squad isn't much better to the one that won and was still consistently getting into the champo league back in the early 2000's but we kept doing it due to less competition while like Segunda said the gap between Madrid and Barca to the other clubs is just getting wider and wider. Wasn't it something like 28 points last year?

Even in Europe over the last decade how many times has the champo league final featured an English team? Since us in 2005 I can only recall 2010 not having an English team. May not have won them all but does show the overall power of the league imo.

In terms of what you find entertaining though is off course personal opinion but really can't see how La Liga is better than the BPL in anyway.



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On our result:

Lol. Typical. Wenger plays Ramsey... F'kin Ramsey over and over and over and over again--when we've only won THREE f'kin league games with him starting in 2012. What the heck?

Why is Gervinho playing as a striker? Why is Ramsey--a CM--playing as a RF? Heck, why is he playing at ALL? Why isn't Wenger playing Podolski up top?

I'm not surprised by the result because the tactics have been so ridiculous.

I don't care for the CL honestly because we're awful in the CL. I'd hope we get knocked out instead, so that we could focus on the League. I wouldn't even mind EL because at least--we'd have a chance.

Onto City, sacking Mancini is the worst thing City could do now. So what if City aren't doing well in the CL! It took Chelsea 9 years after Papa Ramon came, so let's give City some time. Unless the replacement's name is Pep, Mancini is the right man for City.
no no no! obviously the only way is to sack the manager in only their 2nd champions league campaign! it only took fergusion 6 years, but we should be doing it all now now now!

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

Anyone get a good chance to have a laugh at Milan?

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Re: UEFA Champions/Europa League 2012-13 Thread

I remember Spurs' days in the Champions League, 1 year in and a quarter final
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I never once said i was mad at the Prem. I also never once said it isn't a great league. Actually, i said it is a great league, and i see the case for it being the best in the world. I just think that La Liga is better than it, By the smallest of margins. But i also see why people say the premier league is best, and i don't completely disagree with that.

What i said, is that it's over-rated. And the reason i said it's over-rated is because people tend to think it's miles ahead of the other leagues, which it's not. I don't agree with people saying that the premier league is by far the best league in the world.

You seem to have mistaken what i meant by over-rated. Over-rated doesn't mean it's bad. You have come in and thought i meant that the Premier league is bad, which is not what i sai at all. I just don't think it's by far and away the ebst league in the world, like many make it out to be.
Fair enough, but La Liga isn't better than Premier League for obvious reasons.

Isn't it like a norm for people to think that something good or great is overrated? It's pretty much the case all the time. Not ONLY in sport, EVERYWHERE!

If you're talking about excitement, then Premier League is by far the best league in the world.
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